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Hornell Hart’s Analysis of the Evidence for Survival’
GARDNER MurPHy
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Ladies and gentlemen, this is going to be quite different from
what I ordinarily ask you to listen to, I hesitated a long time before
deciding on this topic, I know that you rightly expect something
original; you expect something that is not to be found somewhere
else; you expect something which, however controversial, will at
least leave you with the feeling that there is evidence somewhere
that you ought to take seriously.
Now actually I come here today to do quite a different sort of
thing. I am going to talk about a book*® which I believe to be very
important for psychical research, the very essence of which is to
maintain a cautious, high, dispassionate position on a topic very,
very close to our deepest human needs. And this is a very hard
thing to do, It is doubly hard for an author like Hornell Hart to do
this when he himself has definite convictions. How in the world
can a man present a topic with such intense and profound implica-
tions, a problem which arouses so much intense feeling, pro and
con, maintaining objectivity and fairness, and at the same time,
allowing you to see from time to time his own personal beliefs,
never allowing those personal beliefs to sweep aside the cogent
force of arguments with which he personally disagrees? I think
that question in itself is important. I think the fact that it has been
several decades since we had a compact, scholarly, well-organized
book devoted simply to the survival issue as such, is another
reason.
So I thought I would ask your indulgence in talking tonight
about this book, with the feeling, partly, that we will be talking
about Hornell Hart, partly talking about evidence, and largely we
shall be attempting to find a stand, a position, a frame of reference
for our own further study, discussion, and thought. And if I leave
you with a feeling that Hornell Hart has closed any issues, this
would be the opposite of what I would attempt to do.
I’m going to attempt, in the time that we ordinarily allow here,
to show you the structure of the book; the basic philosophical and
scientific spirit with which this effort is made; the ways of marshall-
ing evidence upon the survival question; the kinds of conclusions
yas Pree et delivered by Professor Murphy at a Meeting of the Society on
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* Hornell Hart, The Enigma of Survival: The Case For and Against an After Life,
C Thomas, Illinois, 1959.
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which can be drawn, pro and con; and the ways in which further
evidence might consolidate the nt gains and might improve
the research so that more confident conclusions could ultimately
be reached,
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This is just one of many ways of accomplishing this purpose.
1 do not claim that the scientific or logical way is the only way. But
I do assert that it is one way, and that Hart has done this so well as
to be worthy of at least an evening's close dissection, if not further
reading,
Now I'd like to remind you that even without taking into account
the thought of ancient India, or the thinking around the Mediter-
ranean basin before the rise of Greek phi hy, without even
taking into account the great Hebrew tradition, without even
considering the mythologies which swept over the Roman Empire
from the Germanic and Celtic and other peoples, there have been
two basic theories of the mind which have belonged consistently and
regularly to Western civilization as such. They run right through
our whole tradition in such a way that I think you will believe, as
I try to state them, that they are both more or less self-evidently
true; and yet, on closer inspection, they are starkly in opposition.
The first bron egies mind is that which was put forward by
the Sophists in the period just before the brilliant discourses of
Socrates—to the effect that the mind is a tissue of associations.
The reason why we think of thunder when there is lightning, or
vice versa, is that these two are associated in our experience.
There is a flash of lightning and we listen and wait confidently for
the thunder. In the same way, we learn by watching people's faces
what to expect, and rightly or wrongly, we expect different
behaviors from smiles and from frowns. The little child very early
learns to scan and understand the tone of the voice. He knows that
trouble is brewing, or that he is going to get an embrace or some-
thing nice to remember. The mind, in other words, is artificially
created by associations moment by moment. There are no inborn
structures in the mind, The child is not born with ideas regarding
the relation of a frown and a spanking, or the relation of lightning
to thunder. The mind is a web, or a pattern, created by riences,
hour by hour. From this point of view, an old man looking back
over his life puts together the experiences of various periods. He
says “Ah, this was I,” as he looks at an old phorwreee of
himself in pants and he laughs and says: “Wasn't I a funny
little fellow!” He re-creates on the assumption that the continuity
is a continuity given by associations.
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‘Now the other point of view, ee developed in the
t Socratic discourses as we have them from Plato, assumes that
sa central “self,” basically an unchanging, fundamental, and
yersonal reality. The Greek actors, as you know, had these
‘masks with heavy lips on them that seem to have acted as
yones, so that a man was known by his mask. And the word
na,” from which we get the word “ i
d used in describing these ancient Greek and Roman masks.
‘persona,” in Latin, is the role of a given character. Now this
to be stable. The same Hercules, in the plays of Euripides, who
great sublimity of character, is represented in one of the
Hercules Mad, as being overpowered with sudden insanity,
ing his wife and children. Now you have to believe, if you are
fo assimilate Greek tragedy, that it was the same Hercules, the same
fundamental person from the cradle to the grave. Because if it is
just an episode there is ih oaopee human meaning in it. If a
sychotic or other seriously disturbed person is just a conglomera-
of states, this is indeed a tragedy; but it no such tragic
ing as when you see a strong man, who is for you still that
ng man, become a weakling or a coward. ceibascar side boeraetoe |
or womanly woman behaving in a frightened or confused way wi
; to the needs of the child, it is a tragedy, yes, but nothing
like the tragedy it would be if the same person is thought to run
through all these things. Now the “persona” or ‘‘mask"’ is the
unchanging and stable element in the Greek dramas. The same
Pro that you find chained on the rock and the same
Prometheus that protests against Zeus gives you a continuity based
mig inner sameness of the person. Now which of these views
hie
ight plausibly be related to survival?
question answers itself. If the mind is nothing more than a
conglomeration of states, attitudes, feelings, and thoughts, which
bounce up and down like the bubbles of a fountain, or the spray of
& cascade, then there is no central continuing unity on which we
could confer responsibility in this life, or continuity after death.
But if there is, as Plato argues, a fundamental, unchanging self,
wera! which, despite the evanescent changes around it, is
izably the same person all the way through, then this gives
some sort of a conception such as Plato d regarding the
immortality of the soul.
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Now Hornell Hart undertakes at the very beginning of this book
to show you some of the philosophical assumptions that have
entered into all of our modern studies, particularly psychical
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research, and to show you that most of the people, for example,
Edmund Gurney, and particularly Frank Podmore, who studied
experiences essentially as associations, had no such belief in
survival as Frederic Myers, who from the earliest years asked
constantly whether there is within the person an unchanging and
continuing self, and who of course answered this question with a
thundering affirmative in his book ( umously published at the
end of the century) called Human Personality its Survival of
Bodily Death#*
Hart, in other words, raises the curtain in order to show us the
same two great fi on the philosophical stage which have been
there before, and which predetermine the approach of a modern
psychical researcher. He may say, “I’m an empiricist. I take data
wherever they lead me,” but he’s likely to have a basic assumption.
ee likely to empty that the er is . Say Soe or
idoscopic series its, stuck together and endlessly changing,
or, on the other hand, that there is a central first person seauler,
what Hart calls the “I-Persona,’’ something which is “I’’ in the
grammarian’s sense, which on despite peripheral changes, to
give a fundamental continuity from cradle to grave and beyond.
Now as for the organization of Hart's book, he undertakes, in
each of the major portions, to show first the classes of evidence that
exist to ry tee either of these points of view, and then to quote
back and forth from modern scholars who have espoused one or
the other position. If, for example, you take the case of ‘collective
hallucinations,” as they are d, Hornell Hart and his wife Ella
published many years ago a fascinating little study on such
collective hallucinations,* that is, cases in which the same tying
person had been seen at a distance by two or more persons. re
are not many such cases but there are a few. Along with the study
of collective cases in which the people are present together at the
time there is a study of cases in which there is the same apparition
of drowning, for example, seen independently by different persons
at different points.
Now suppose we assume, as Frank Podmore would have done
in the early collection of spontancous cases, that the basic concept
is telepathy, that is to say, the flashing of an impression from one
mind to poosbegs (nip anal biped mang
impression. Or even if the impression comes some hours after
death, say even 24 hours, you can say if you wish that some sort
of telepathic impression was received at the time of death but only
°F, W. H. M Human Pertonality and its Survival Bodily Death,
Green, und Co., New York “sg erin 1903. ¢ sua ek
S.P.R., Vol. XLI, 1985-1933, pp. 205.249.) oPromally Perceived,” Pree.
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‘slowly welled up or made its way into consciousness. A good many
of the cases to do with dreaming or a quasi-dreaming state; a
srson falls into a sort of brown study. A woman, for example,
gees her brother trip over a and knows somehow or other that
he is falling over the railing of a ship to drown in the water below.
“When this impression comes to her she is not asleep; she is in a
nent: iated state, a sort of brown study, it would
ear. Under such circumstances you would explain all of the cases
got as due to the I-Persona of the dying person reaching out at
death or even after death, but rather to a telepathic impact alone. If
-guch an experience ha to more than one person, perhaps one
> receives the telepathic impact and then another receives it
_ On the contrary, says Frederic Myers, studying the same cases,
fet us try another view. Is there not intrinsic evidence here that
one sees the dying person in a slightly different way? As a
of fact, doesn't each person see something colored by his
own individuality? We have very curious cases in which different
people at different points actually apperceive the vision in a
different way. There is one dramatic case in which one sees the
image reflected in a mirror, and now it is seen not as if it were an
exact duplicate of what the first person sees. One person sees it
c , but the other person, standing a few feet apart in the
room, sees it as if reflected. Each person then is making a dramatic
reality out of this—not as if one were telepathically
ing the other. This is what Frederic Myers had originally
called ‘‘the invasion of space”’ by the dying person. And since each
of us occupies a different portion of space, each of us will structure
organization to the apparition in his or her own personal
terms. What is interacting, says Hart (agreeing with Myers) is not
momentary associations in the mind, but the deeper, central,
ing, personal reality of the dying person in interaction
with a fving rson receiving the impression.
Just recently in a new attempt to gather cases, the American
Society for Psychical Research drew one that intrigued me very
much—in which a girl whose chief interest is a farm in Wisconsin
in a dream, to make a journey to visit her mother who is
teaching schoo! out in Montana. About 2 o'clock in the morning,
there is mother, working at her ironing. She sees the daughter
coming in, as if to say, “Why are you visiting me at 2 o’clock in the
morning?” There is a momentary interchange in what we would
call a “reciprocal"’ telepathic experience.
Now how far do you get, says this point of view, with the theory
of a passive telepathy carrying the impulse from A to B? Rather
it as if there were a real reciprocity between the deep levels of
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two persons. There is an I-Persona for each person; the two are
interchanging. To this the first school of thought would im-
mediately say: “How do you know what would be the ultimate
evidence of an unchanging personality, an I-Persona? After all,
doesn’t the girl see from the int of view of what she herself is
in her teens ? Doesn't her mother see in terms of what she is as a
school teacher who has to earn a living out in Montana for a few
months of the year away from the family? Doesn't each of them
think in terms of personal associations exactly as the Sophists would
have said? Isn't the experience a pattern of the interwoven
associations, rather than an unchanging expression of a stable
perso e
From thi Hornell Hart goes on to consider a variety of other
instances in which he gradually strengthens, a step at a time, the
discussion of the problem of activity as constrasted with passivity
in the telepathic or other spontaneous cases. I want to illustrate
this by reference to two cases, one old and one new, in which I
think I can make more clear what is meant by “activity” and by
“passivity” in these impressions.
There is one of these collective cases in which no less than six
persons saw an apparition, each one from an appropriate point of
view. This is the case of R. C. Morton published 70 years ago in
the British Proceedings.’ Miss Morton was a medical student who
got interested in the scientific problem of a wraith, or a spectre, or
“haunt,” or whatever you want to call it, which would appear in
the garden; people would look out of the upper story window and
see it coming ? the garden path. Then people would sce the
figure come in through the open door. Others at the head of the
stairs would watch the figure climbing the steps. Miss Morton
herself, not in the least bit bothered by any of this, took a piece of
string and attached it with fish glue about a two-foot height from
the staircase and watched the figure walk through the thread. She
satisfied herself that this was not a solid person making a practical
joke at the expense of those present.
Here then we have from these six different points of view
something that acts like an entity ~ Hart would say, an “I-
aeaoes) and not like a reflection of different images or impres-
ns,
Tyrrell, in his interesting collection of cases, has gone so far as
to report instances in which there is an actual obliteration of part
of the image if it is out of sight from the point of view of the eyes
of the person at the time. One person sees the figure, for example,
"2c. “Record of - ‘ x
op Sit Morton, a Haunted House,” Proc. S.P.R., Vol. 8, 1892
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ut off, in part, and it turns out actually that the room in which the
‘actual image (a dog in this particular case) is seen, had been
‘rebuilt. The dog ran where the floor used to be; the lower part of
‘the dog's four legs was obliterated because the floor has been
tf is, in other words, is a oe tnvowring quite Pie ;
‘distortion of ‘psychological space” from the point of view o
somethi Reap binge rete oil
Now I don’t know if Tyrrell is aware of the verbal play that he is
icing in here. It a a fascinating one. He says that any theatrical
performance depends not only upon a producer and a director,
assistants having to do with props and lights etc., but upon a cae
carpenter.” That is to say, somebody must be responsible for the
actual filling-up of the space (the actual cabinet making, if it is
that, the actual change in structure: bannister, rails, walls, and the
actual floor itself), Now, in cach person’s mind, there is not just
passivity, but there is a on carpenter. If you prefer to say this
in Freud’s language and talk about the unconscious and dream-
censorship, ctc., you can. There is a dramatic Process that is
‘constantly re-working the passively received material so that all
a itions and all dreams are actively re-created by the I-Persona
of the receiving person. The stage carpenter, in other words, is
what intervenes (in the production of an apparition) between two
personalities which otherwise would be flopping about helplessly,
unable to make contact with one another.
There is, moreover, in Tyrrell—and here there is a frank avowal
of a one-sided point of view—an implication that there must be
both in the agent and in percipient; both in the sender and in the
receiver, a stage ter. And the two stage carpenters must get
together. This, if you like, is like the old theory of telepathy which
René Warcollier and others offered; he says that the unconscious
portions of two minds must interact (not the conscious minds, but
the unconscious portions of two minds) if there is to be a telepathic
can we conclude? We here utilized the Gurney and
Podmore approach, the Myers and Tyrrell approach, constantly
turning this to the light showing you that actually, aside from
endless verbalization, you cannot settle the question in any final
way by spontaneous cases alone. It seems to me that that conclusion,
it is offered very cautiously, is almost dinned into your
ears as you read, When you read it, drop me a post card and tell
me whether you agree or not. I’m going to ask you to consider the
possibility that the spontancous cases, rich, important and valuable
as they are, cannot lead to a final conviction here except at a verbal
level. Now I can tell you that I prefer one of these theories to the
other, and I can give you verhelinations: but since I cannot climb
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down, like a super stage-carpenter, into the lower terrain, and
cannot discover the unchanging I-Persona, I can only see the
constantly changing Gardner Murphy, who is not the same person
that talked to you last year, and very much not the same person
that studied ame research out of his grand-daddy’s Home
University Library book by Sir William Barrett fifty years ago. My
subjective experience that I'm constantly changing does not settle
anything. Or if I tell you, “I am the same. I'm not just a series of
external changes,” this won't convince you either. You'll be left
with the fecling that these are interesting philosophical arguments;
and spontaneous cases can be mars to support one or the
other; but this is not the direction in which final conviction is
likely to be achieved,
At this point, Hart resorts to a highly ingenious point, which he
only gives brief space to here because the argument is of a statistical
character, and he knows this is hard going. Actually he published
this material in two earlier papers and only very tangentiall
handles it here. He undertakes to show that those qualities which
any apparently -mortem apparition will possess when it
gay nadie. visktiod value (that is, when it convinces you
by inte evidence that it is not just a fluke, not just a
chance coincidence) are the same attributes which a spon-
taneous case will possess, when we are dealing not with post-
mortem communication but with known inter-communication
between the living. And he goes on to this very daring ment:
if the same natural history applies to the interaction between
persons when they're both alive as appears when one of them is
offered us as living and the other as —i.e., if by an inner
analysis of their attributes we discover that death doesn’t make
any difference in the attributes—if we discover that the same
attributes hold for the cases when the two peo le are living, as
when one is living and one is deceased, doesn't this argue that the
sheer fact of death in itself does not alter the form of telepathic
communication ?
If you find that veridical apparitions occurring days or weeks
after death are like those which come at the time of death or
before death, doesn’t this contain at least a potential challenge
that maybe the same thing is happening, i.e., telepathy for an
existing I-Persona? Now ib yeu should happen to feel this way,
you would be saying that the I-Persona theory fits and that the
association theory doesn’t fit. The association theory would say
that if we change so much even in a year of our lives, certainly the
fact of physical death should macerate, perhaps destroy everything
—even if you had some sort of a mind-body theory which allows
something to exist beyond death. Even a month after death the
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getion-attributes, the potentials, the beaming of the message
directly to you so that several other people can see it at the same
time—all this is not the kind of thing which a kaleidoscopic series
of associations would be expected to produce, but it is the sort of
thing which an I-Persona beyond death should approach. This
eannot be made more convincing by purely verbal argument, but
this statistical evaluation of the spontaneous cases is, I think,
highly ingenious, and one of the few really mew things that have
been said in the matter of survival evidence from spontaneous cases
' IV
Now when we reach this point in the argument, we begin to say,
Is there not any more direct kind of evidence? And on this, of
‘course, Hart mobilizes the evidence from mediumship a a
with the great period which began when William James in |
Mecovered Mre L. E. Piper, a aga medium; through her
feceived messages coming from his wife's family which he and his
wife were certain had never been normally communicated; and
which could not be attributed to any easy device like unconscious
‘whispering or any other trick. During the period of the 80’s and
90's the mediumship of Mrs. Piper, followed in the first decade of
this century by the mediumship of half a dozen other persons,
yielded an extraordinary series of soi-disant communications from
the deceased. Now this story, although it has been told a great
many times, isn't known as well as it should be. Dr. Hyslop, Sr.,
for example, devoted books to the history of the analysis of the
‘Piper iat later on the Soule and other mediumistic phenomena,
‘undertaking to show in great detail that the material is not of the
‘sort which telepathic impulses could produce. We know something,
said the late Dr. Hyslop (and later Dr. Walter Franklin Prince said
_ the same thing) about the natural history of telepathy—not very
‘much, but we know what sorts of things are easy and hard to
communicate; we know something about the unconscious rather
than the conscious nature of the telepathic impulse; we know
_ something about the histrionic skills of the entranced mind of the
‘medium which make it possible to enact the part of the deceased
person and play-act through a communication. We know something
about the limits to this play-acting business. And as this sort of
thing is analyzed more and more closely, it shows that the two
“major theories which we have presented up until now in a naive
come up against equally solid obstacles.
May we restate these two naive theories ? The first would be, to
take it naturalistically, and very simply, that the personality that
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talks to you through a medium is simply a histrionic, play-acting
which, for the moment, and under the Enthance oF trance,
btioves itself to be a deceased entity; it fishes about, picks up odds
and ends of information—perhaps through unconscious hints, but
even through telepathic cues, and puts over successfully a replica-
tion, a simulation, of a deceased personality, ‘That is theory number
one. And this was the theory which Richard Hodgson, the great
Australian scholar, developed when he first had his sittings with
Mrs. Piper. The personalities that appeared to communicate
through Mrs. Piper, he said, are simply dream-processes.
The other theory, however, which Hodgson gradually espoused
Thy sey the first theory as the result of communications from
his friend George Pelham who had died suddenly just before this—
was that somehow there is an invasion of the sleeping body of the
entranced medium; that this invaded body is now capable of
talking or writing automatically, or conveying messages, which,
although colored and distorted, do somehow verily represent the
continuing personality of the deceased.
Now it is rather a k to realize that almost all serious scholars
working with the Hodgson material came to the conclusion early
in this century that both views, the play-acting theory and the
invasion theory, were untenable, Nevertheless there are two forms
of survival theory which were developed, more or less at the same
time, one by Mrs. Henry Sidgwick, and the other by the elder
Dr. Hyslop, which represent ways of bringing to bear upon the
evidence certain rather more complex notions of what survival
might mean. I will tell you in advance that they are something like
this stage-carpenter idea from Tyrrell that I discussed a minute ago.
Mrs. Sidgwick’s theory is that the entity which communicates is,
to be sure, simply a histrionic pose, but that it constantly draws the
needed information either from living or from deceased minds in
order to complete the sense of the I-Persona, in order to give a
continuity recognizable by the living. Dr. Hyslop pushed this a
little further, arguing that there was fusion of the minds of living
and deceased, that at times the trance personality is actually like
the fusion of colors, for example, an orange that is so perfect that
you can’t decide how much is red and how much is yellow. It is
not half-red and half-yellow; it is a fusion of the two. In this case
we have the notion of a deep-level collaboration between living
medium and deceased communicator to produce the fusion which
appears in the replication of the soi-distant personality, which is
not quite the deceased ity, nor is it a histrionic pose, but
it is a new creation for the moment.
Now at this point Hart seems rather close to Dr. Hyslop; for he
sums up the general view that we are strait-jacketing ourselves
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unnecessarily by clinging to either of the niive positions first
stated. He is somewhat nearer to the I-Persona theory; he is some-
what more Socratic or Platonic than the view which I first quoted;
but he is unmistakably closer to this kind of survival position than
he is to the associationist position which originally I quoted in
opposition.
Vv
Now this might seem complicated enough. Yes, it is; but the
task of a man working as Hornell Hart is working is to go beyond
the simple and to create all the difficulties that he can get people to
face. And considering that the book is small, simple, direct, well-
written, I think it is extraordinary to have gotten even to this point.
But he attempts one more complex issue, And I will ask you to
le with it.
e have the study of what has come to be called in recent years
the modus operandi of mediumistic trance, the psychology of this
process of interaction between medium’s mind and communicator’s
mind. It is no longer enough to say that there are histrionic poses
lay-acting, or roles, accepted and used by the entranced medium);
is no longer enough to say that somehow the deceased gets
through. Neither of these states the facts. The facts are at a higher
level of complexity. What happens is that a series or chain of com-
munications can actually be observed if you are patient enough
to allow this. The material here is drawn rather largely from the
study of another medium, Mrs. Osborne Leonard, particularly
the work done by C. Drayton Thomas in a remarkable series of
Epes published by the British S.P.R.
ere is also some mat ang a eg ; rh =e
rip open. work done roubridge an »° who
oy of the earliest studies (right after the First World War) of
modus operandi of trance. There is Earl Balfour's celebrated study
of Mrs. Willett’s communications,’ as exemplified in one of the
test of all mediumistic utterances, the “Ear of Dionysius.”
be tyaically whet ia happening here ie ties He ® iving us the
kind of evidence that Drayton Thomas offers us on this matter of
modus operandi. You start by setting up an hypothesis to the effect
that if the thing communicating were an entity, with certain human
associations, having lived a certain life with certain deep affections,
certain habits, fears, hopes, and expectations, then not only would
* Una Troubridge and M. Radclyffe-Hall, "On a Series of Sittings with Mrs.
Osboone Leonard,” Proc. S.P.R., Vol. 30, 1918-1919, pp. 339-554,
7G. W. Balfour, ‘The Ear of Dionysius : Further Scripts Evidence of
Pernaial S eats Pron SPR, Vol. XXIX, 1916-1918, pp. 197-286,
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the words, the mannerisms, the form of ing, the expressive
machinery by which we recognize one t be recognizably the
same, but it would be possible for the investigator to ask the
communicator, step by step, to describe what the process of com-
munication seems like to him. Instead of believing it or rejecting it,
the thing to do is to get it down, study it, analyze it, publish it, and
invite the collaboration of others. We haven't spread our American
wings very much in our Society's publications, but Dorothy Berg,*
not very long ago, made a study of modus operandi in three mediums
which is an attempt to bring together what has been done by
nae different investigators studying both British and American
material,
In the volume now under discussion there is an attempt on the
part of Hornell Hart to utilize these concepts; to show that there is
more than a web of associations, more than a sheer reiteration of
personal identity, but rather the expression in the mediumistic
séance of the point of view of an entity struggling frantically to
make itself clear. This has the errors, the confusion and the
difficulties which you will expect a person, trying to use an
organism other than his own, and working with very complex
material which he must express if he wants to convey the sense of
his own identity, will have to deal with, and will have to have
“played back” to him so that he can correct the misunderstandings
in such a way that finally something can be recorded as a mass of
evidence that is more than that which can be simply attributed to
the belief of the sitter.
Does it follow from this that the case is closed? Far from it. If
Hornell Hart were interested simply in a legal presentation, if he
were interested in being counsel for one party rather than the
other, this would end the book in a d climax. You would say
the I-Persona theory wins, hands down. Not so Hornell Hart.
Because you have forgotten something. You have forgotten that
there are a large number of very careful, critical, well-informed
investigators who have listened to all of this and still remain of their
own opinion. And here are some of the reasons why. Hart takes
particulary seriously E. R. Dodds, who is one of the classical
scholars who have been deeply interested. As you know, a great deal
of the British survival evidence has to do with the classicist
A ie Myers ae Aes BE goers who have communicated
r fragmentary and Latin messages or in other ways have
shown their identification with the Graeco-Roman titersture and
history which meant so much to them in life. He therefore takes the
* Dorothy A. “The Modus i of Trance Communication: A
Comparison of Thetis," Journat A.S.P.R., January, 1951, pp. 17-36.
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time and trouble to quote E. R. Dodds at great length, parti
from an article called “Why I do not Believe in Survival,”® whi
is one of the strongest, solidest, clearest statements of the associa-
tion theory which exists. In other words, just when you get to the
point of saying the debate is nearly over (this is the 1948 election
and we can go home now and don’t have to worry how things are
going to come out!) it becomes perfectly evident that there is
always another human word as long as human beings struggle with
incomplete, fragmentary, and distorted materials, as they must
when such an issue and such limited kinds of material exist. Dodds
argues strongly for the unknown limits of the association principle.
He reminds us that there are some very curious cases in which
persons actually alive at the time have appeared and communicated
and have been thought to be giving post-mortem m . There
are at least two very dramatic cases, One is the case of a French
chauffeur named Réallicr!? who was at Salonika during the First
World War and who appeared onan Sie Halsey in New York
and so very good evidence for his identity. The only trouble was
that he wasn’t deceased, as he said he was, but was at the Salonika
front. The second is the equally dramatic case of Gordon Davis
published by S. G. Soal."* The materials in this case are com-
municated through Blanche Cooper in London on the basis of the
ape that the man is a boyhood friend who has on,
y he is living in another of London. This fit the
association theory; it does not fit the I-Persona theory. What are
you going to do about it?
One thing you can do is to look for still more complicated
evidence. Another is to look for still more sophisticated philo-
sophics, And all of this Hart gives us. He even takes you, in
this relatively short book, through a sort of a tunnel, a maze of
both evidence and argument: terse presentations of the evidence
and then summaries of the two points of view which I have been
trying to describe to you,
If don’t happen to have had the enormous pleasure—and if
you Laven't, I hope that you will sometime—of exposing yourself
to what has been known as the Lethe case,"*,™ here will be a
* Proc. S.P.R., Vol. XLII, 1934, pp. 147-172.
“ Jamce HH ia A Case Alleged Mind Reading,” JournaL AS.P.R.,
BA iReport oa Some | Received through Mrs. Blanche
C “iy
ear Proc. S.P.R,, Vol. XXXV, 1925, pp. 471-594. seen vis
. G. Piddington, “Further Experiments with Mrs, Piper in : Il. Three
Incidents from i Sitings: Lethe, the Sibyl; the Horace Ode Question.” Proc
. . 86-144,
® Sir Oliver " of Classical Scholarship and of Cross Correspond-
in Some New Automatic Writings,” Proe. S.P.R., Vol. XXV, 1911, pp. 114-
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fragment to whet your appetite. The word “Lethe,” the river of
forgetfulness in the underworld, was regarded by one investigator
as a good way of riage, ee whether Frederic Myers, purporting
to communicate, is y the classicist that he pretends to be.
Therefore, George Dorr, in a sitting near Boston, asked the
ee pir a Myers what the word Lethe suggested. After a good
of sparring around, the purporting Myers gives what appears
to be a long string of meaningless associations. But a good many of
them were Greek words or proper names. Finally, the scholarly
team working on this did pick out the place in Ovid's Metamor-
pPhoses in which all these names that were given by the purporting
Myers appear in connection with a journey to Lethe. This wasn’t
enough, however, to satisfy the I-Persona school of thought, and
so the question was sent over to be presented by Sir Oliver Lodge
to Mrs. Willett, the English medium. And in this instance the
package was opened which contained the question, and im-
mediately the purporting Myers said that this concerned a question
asked before, and went on to make gir earn replies. Finally he
wrote in capital letters, ‘‘D-O-R-R- This is the Dorr to which I
found no key,” evidencing simultaneous knowledge of the American
experiment and of the need to say something about Lethe. The
Myers personality then goes on to give a long series of very
appropriate associations with Lethe, this time not from Ovid, but
from Virgil. If you don’t have the pleasure of knowing the Lethe
case, do expose yourself to that because it is a really great literary
uzzle, whether you believe this supports one or the other view,
t is one of those rare delights which the British scholarship back
of psychical research has produced.
Does this case mean, for Hornell Hart, just a museum piece?
No. This means: let’s struggle some more with this evidence. For
example, let’s see whether any living person could have been the
telepathic source of this material. Who might have influenced it?
After going through the various data, one could say that it might
have come in part from here, in part from there, Just as in the Ear
of Dionysius, the attempt is to find a living source for the material.
VI
Now perhaps you will be disappointed if you have been occupy-
ing high middle ground here to find two final steps which Hart
thinks he must take as an honest man. The first is to recapitulate
all the evidence, and then to recapitulate all the arguments, and
then to state why he personally takes a particular view, while in
your ears there is still ringing the discord, the babel, of this
confused and uncertain debate. You won't catch Hart saying, “I
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tagged the base this time.”’ You will find him only saying, “In the
Big League games we have more than one umpire, and we have to
decide which umpire is going to decide regarding the men running
the bases.” “Who of you,” Hart is essentially saying, “‘is close
enough to the evidence to have the right to say that you are right
and somebody else is wrong?” Hart believes in the I-Persona
theory but does not think that this closes the mouths or the minds
or the hearts of anybody else.
I want to leave you then, with a book which essentially re-
capitulates the kinds of evidence, the kinds of points of view which
are legitimate in this field. Now if I have conveyed to you any of the
feeling of this effort, 1 hope that at the same time I have done two
things: the first is to induce you to read some of the material which
is presented here second-hand by Hart; the second is to convince
you that we need more than verbal argument. We need new kinds
of evidence. We need, in particular, types of evidence which are
manifestly beyond the scope of any of the considerations brought
forward. When people say that we have had all the evidence for
seventy-five years, they have overlooked the fact that there is a
good that fs new under the sun. When Mrs. Piper appeared,
she was new; when Mrs. Willett appeared, she had a new kind of
evidence; when the cross-correspondences occurred, they were
new; when Tyrrell presented his very dramatic study of the stage-
carpenter and interaction in taneous cases, he presented
something very new. Some people say, “Why do you want to
back and toy with these old things?” Quite a number of people
believe that there are still new things to be found out by going
through the literature in our field; new angles, new ways of inter-
Preting, new experiments to be tried. This psychical research of
ours is not a cut-and-dried and completed issue. It is a growing
thing.
It sp bag to be a field in which final decisions are not easily
made. Are there any other fields of which this is true? There are
few other fields in the sciences, in the humanities, in history, in
which we think the evidence is all in. Maybe, in the course of
Pursuing survival evidence more fully, we will not only get new
and new arguments, but, if the process is vigorous, maybe
imree, © stvevoninng Of one sinile, 5 rDeconine oe ns Pee
8pective, an clevation of our ways of understanding, to a level that
will make better sense out of what already exists as well as to find
new ways of marshalling fresh evidence. | hope, however, that in
Our time the issue will not be closed, because I believe that it is like
@ prematurely closed wound, like a scab that forms too early.
Rgwealiirere plbui ine ctr i 2 ynacg lee
implications have been worked through. I there is nothing
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more unfortunate for psychical research than dogmatic and com-
plete answers which attempt to close the minds of everybody else.
So I would say, ‘‘Here is the book, with vigor, with freshness,
with charm, which leaves you with that feeling which you ought to
have: that psychical research is unfinished; we hope it will remain
unfinished for a long time, In the meantime a lot of terribly
exciting and important stuff is being discovered all the time.”
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