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The Bindelof Sitter Group and Its Influence
on the Lives of the Participants
Montacue UbioMan
ABSTRACT: Over a period of about a year and a half, from the autumn of 1932 to the spring
wt 1934, a group of adolescent boys, all about 16 at the onset, begun to hold regular weekly
séunces inthe classical tradition of sitting around a table, holding hands in a darkened room,
lhere had been sporadic sittings in 193) that were initiated by Gil and Len, who were soon
joined by Larry. [ joined in the autumn of 1932 and was followed by Howard. George. Tom.
and others less regularly. During the period im question, physical manifestations occurred in
a gradual fashion that convinced us that we were dealing with genuine psychic phenomend
and that an intelligent force had been brought into play. From early dubious knocks and
movements of the table we progressed to rapid movement of the table around the room and
finally levitation. Psychic photographs were obtained by placing objects on a film enclosed in
a light proof contuiner. This led to thought photography and finally. and most spectacularly,
wsenes of written messages when pencil and paper were placed on the lower shelf of a night
tible around which we were sitting with our hands resting on the top of the table. The
inessages Were in answer to questions a group of teenagers might put to what seemed to be
«surviving entity ef some kind. The various ways in which the participants were affected by
the experiences then and in later years are described. In addition, meticulous records made at
reunions of the group in 1966, 1969, and 1971 have been compiled and presented to illuminate
the longitudinal, long-term aftereffects of our original one and one-hall year sitter-group
experience.
PREFACE TO THIS VERSION
Seventy years have passed since my introduction to the world of psychic
phenomena and the striking manifestations that unfolded over the ensuing
two years. In retrospect, this was the most sustained exciting period of my
life. These phenomena and manifestations also determined my dual path
through life as a parapsychologist as well as a psychiatrist. There are four
of us from the original circle still around, all hovering a bit over our
mid-eighties: Gil, Larry, Howard, and myself. None of us ever doubted the
| want to express my indebtedness to Rhea A. White for the initiative she took in regard to
publishing this account in The Journal of the American Soctety for Psychical Research, It was
no cany task for her to link the referee reports and the vast amount of accrued data to the actual
experiences themselves. It has long been my hope that such a unified account would someday
be available. No one but Rhea could have done it.
I also want to thank Dr. Naney Sondow for the considerable help she offered in the
preparation af the manuseript for publication and Dr. Suzanne V. Brown for her very skillful
cul itirage.
This is the first full record published ina single issue, An earlier version spanning four parts
and correspondence between the author and Rhea White was published in Exceptional Human
Experience: Vol TiCL), 1999: Vek 10D) and 1202), 1994) and Vol, 13(1), 1995,
The Jowrnal of the Ameriwon Aactety for
Povehical Research Vol, 9S, January/Apnl 2001
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genuineness of what we witnessed. As noted in the account, explanations
differed or, as in my case, simply eluded us, .
As “psychic phenomena” evolved into scientific parapsychology, sé-
ances and their associated phenomena fell out of fashion except for
sporadic reminders (Batcheldor, 1966 on séances; Owens, 1964 on polter-
geists; Eisenbud, 1989 on psychic photography). Parapsychologists have
had a hard time gaining admission to the scientific pantheon. There are,
however, beginning signs that cracks are occurring in the rejectionist wall
of science with regard to the efforts of parapsychologists. Distinguished
theoretical physicists such as Paul Davies (1983) and John C. Polkinghorne
(1994) have sought to bridge the gap between science and theology to
reach a deeper understanding of what is real. Harold E. Puthoff’s (2002)
studies on zero-point energy suggest a link to the paranormal. Stanley
Klein (2002), in introducing metaphor into the Copenhagan interpretation
of quantum mechanics, offers a manner that may link the basis of science
to that of the spiritual world. David Bohm (1986), in introducing the
concepts of information and meaning into the equations of quantum me-
chanics, saw a possible approach to understanding the paranormal.
My own quest for a deeper understanding of the enduring mystery of
dreaming consciousness has brought me closer to both worlds, the quantum
world and the spiritual world. Quantum concepts such as complementarity,
nonlocality, the unity of the observer and observed have their anitlogy to
the Opposite but not oppositional relationship of waking consciousness to
dreaming consciousness, the occurrence of nonlocal telepathic effects, and
the identity of the dreamer with what is being dreamt.
; My thirty years of experiential group dream work resulted in a deeply
felt sense of what is meant by such terms as communion and spirituality.
I never thought that science and theology would tind a point of conver-
gence in my life. It took a long time but it has, not in terms of any formal
religious belief, but in a conviction that science will have to go beyond
what is measurable to a deeper concern with the subtle threads. that
generate a hidden but palpable interconnectedness, There must an unknown
source of energy which given the right intensity of that interconnectedness,
can make 4 table levitate, generate a thought photograph, or get a pencil to
write with no one holding it.
That's what happened when we sat together in the dark.
Part I: Overview and Background
INTRODUCTION
Beginning in 1932 and extending to early 1934, | participated in a series
of séances productive of what at the time I thought to be true psychic
phenomena and what I still believe, from a perspective taken 70 years later,
were true psi effects. Because of the circumstances under which these
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effects occurred (we were a group of youngsters then, 16 and 17 years old,
sitting around a table in a darkened room, witnessing strange happenings
and unconcerned with proving anything) there is no way I can justify my
belief in their validity in the light of the rigorous lengths to which the
modern parapsychologist goes to exclude fraud. Here and there I can offer
some intriguing evidence that might raise the eyebrow of even a skeptic,
but that isn’t the point, The point is, rather, that these were exceptional
human experiences that had a lasting effect on the lives of the participants,
an effect that was validated some three decades later at reunions, and in the
case of the four surviving members of the group, seven decades later.
There were a number of lingering reservations I had that had to be
overcome before | was prepared to offer a full public exposure of these
events. My own long association with parapsychologists made me acutely
aware of how vulnerable this account would be to any critical appraisal of
the residual evidence. After all, couldn't it just be written off as the
highjinks of a group of adolescents who, in their grandiosity, heated
imagination, and stimulated by their reading about the exploits of Florence
Cook, Eusapia Palladino, D.D, Home, and the like, were hell-bent on
recreating the world of psychic phenomena that had all but disappeared? |
knew I lacked the literary skills necessary to bring back the excitement, the
fun, the moments of fear, the passion, and commitment we felt that kept us
at it every Saturday evening for well over a year. We could hardly keep it
to ourselves. Friends, including girl friends, joined us to the point where
that small room where the séances were held was often quite crowded.
There are a number of other reasons why it has taken me so long to face
the task of organizing and presenting the material | had on hand. | made
Iwo attempts involving other writers to incorporate the data into a fictional
recreation of the events. Both were failures, With the death of one of the
participants, Leonard, who played an important role from the very begin-
ning to the termination of the sittings, and who later in life became a close
and dear friend, I finally faced the reality that if a serious and straightfor-
ward account were ever to appear (as straight as any honest effort at
reconstruction could be, with due allowance for the vicissitudes of mem-
ory). | would have to undertake it myself in consultation with the three
others still alive at this writing.
These earlier experiences never left me and obviously had a great effect
on my life and my career. | will go into this in greater detail at the end, but
for the present, suffice it to say that | tried to rekindle this interest at
varying stages of my life. It paved the way for my later clinical and
experimental studies in parapsychology and resulted in the unending and
lifelong search | have felt compelled to pursue to accommodate these
strange and “unworldly” experiences to the world of consensual reality, 1
know that the others who participated were also deeply affected and carried
the experience with them throughout their lives.
I want to say a word more about the impetus of Rhea White's writings
about exceptional human experience and her efforts to broaden our vision
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and the range of our interests if we are ever to arrive at, to use a current
idiom, a consciousness-friendly science that will ultimately accommodate
psi and the full range of human subjectivity. This was the structure needed
fo cast aside the last remaining obstacles to the task of keeping the record
straight.
In the spring of 1966 1 sent letters to five members of the core group
Suggesting that sometime that summer we arrange to meet for the purpose
of reminiscing. The events linking these men and myself had occurred over
three decades earlier. The purpose of the meeting was to compare our
recollections of these events, to mutually assist each other in filling gaps
Where possible, to establish areas of consensual agreement as to what took
place, as well as to define those aspects of the experience where the passage
of time rendered any semblance of accurate reconstruction impossible. The
events in question were extraordinary both at the time they occurred and in
their lasting impact over the years. All the invitees responded affirmatively.
The result was a Sunday devoted to the boisterous, excited recapturing
of what for each of us was probably the strangest and most powerful
experience of our youth. The proceedings were taped and duly transcribed,
Similar meetings took place in 1969 and 1971,’ again with the idea of
marshaling the residual physical evidence that something of paranormal
significance did occur and to sift these data through the screen of our
mutual reminiscences. From the perspective of whatever maturity and
wisdom comes with middle age (at that time), we sought to come to some
consensus as to what had actually happened.
The “happenings” | refer to occurred in the course of séances assidu-
ously conducted at weekly intervals beginning in 1932? and continuing
through 1933, terminating in the spring of 1934 when the group finally
disbanded. What we witnessed over this period was the gradual and
ultimately climactic unfolding of almost the full gamut of psychical phe-
nomena as they were known and detined by writers on the subject in the
9th and early 20th centuries. The developmental sequence began with
equivocal movements, tilting of the table and knocks, and ultimately went
to such startling phenomena as the table moving about the room and actual
levitation, photographs taken without exposure of the plates, and messages
appearing on paper with no one holding the pencil, purportedly written by
someone |Dr. Bindelof, to be described later] who had died yeurs before.
Heady stuff for a group of 16 and 17 year olds! Either that or mere
foolishness and nonsense.
There were many reasons why none of us thought it was foolishness,
cither then or at any later point in our lives. Any differences among us had
to do with our various ways of interpreting our experiences and not with
the fact that we were witnessing genuine psychic phenomena. We could
‘Howard was not present at those meetings. Gil, Leonard, Larry. George, and 1 attended.
“There had been sporadic sittings before that time and prior to the time | joined the group
These will be noted later,
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neither explain it away or consider what at the time of our get-together in
1966 would have been a 33-year sustained fraud, joke. or other form of
deception by any member of the group or any combination thereof. on of
this writing it has now been 70 years, and the conviction of the psychic
reality of our experience has remained unshaken. oo
| am fully aware, of course, that the issue of authenticity is crucial. We
had not embarked upon our adventure with the idea of setting down
elaborate controls with the conscious intent of eliminating fraud or decep-
tion. Quite to the contrary, the excitement and freedom with pry a
out to reproduce phenomena we had read about and the quality of fun ar
near hilarious release we experienced in the pauses between periods of
sitting (along with at times fright and even terror) offered many i al
nities for deception had anyone been so inclined. The perpetrator of suc
a fraud would have found himself face to face with an enormous under-
taking. He would have had to control the situation on a weekly basis over
a very long period of time. Inasmuch as on many occasions the ——
the sittings took was only determined after the lights went out, he wou
have faced the near impossible task of having a very wide variety of
difficult tricks to pull out of his bag without any notice, Once the sittings
were fully developed, phenomena such as rappings, written messages,
photographic plates could characterize uny one sitting. The hoaxer, ka! t
howxing team, would have to have been willing to endure many unpre me
live, wasted evenings Where nothing much happened. Toward what ond]
‘Toward what personal gain? No one ended up as a professional magician
or a professional medium. No one except me ended up in a _ even
remotely connected with psychical research, Although our youthfu expe-
riences and the impact on our lives over the decades might mnie an
interesting story, taken alone they are not likely to convince even someone
only mildly skeptical, There is, however, more to the story than our mere
description of the events. There are strange features to the original |e
graphs which are still extant as well as something most unusual about at
least one of the messages to which I can attest.
I! after reading the entire account, the reader sull doubts its authenticity,
there would be no way at this late date of changing his or her mind. For me.
liking inte account the enduring feeling of reality I have had about on
events and the impact they have had on my life and the lives of the others,
they stand as striking examples of the range of the paranormal. I cannot
conceive of any one of us, in either a spirit of conscious deception or
unconscious self-deception, having the skill and ability to develop: the
lord panorama of phenomena that unfolded before us as the sittings
progressed over a two-year period in those early days. Moreover, T cannot
conceive of that person decades later engaging with the rest of us in our
reconstructive efforts without at any point doing or saying anything that
would lead anyone to be even vaguely suspicious. (1am assuming the
perpetrator of this was not myself.) ee teenie
What possible motive could anyone hive, assuming 1 was a hoax, for
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maintaining this pose among old friends for so long? Someone would have
had to be a consummate artist to have relived the e Xperience as each of us
did once the reconstruction efforts began and so dissemble his feelings that
no one could suspect the experience was not as genuine for him as it was
for the rest of us, both at the time it occurred and in the reliv ing of it. When
the group did get together in later years, there was a cohesiveness. a
congeniality, an easy racers understanding, an excitement, and at times
the same old joy and hilarity at the recall of certain incidents so that the
idea of a Judas among us was impossible for us to conceive. We had all
gone along very different paths which, in the ordinary course of events,
would never again have crossed were it not due to the recurrent pull of the
special tie that made us and kept us 4 group.”
Fig. |. A copy of Montes original Bindelot Society calling card
In 1966 | received a small grant to initiate a serious effort at the
reconstruction of what we had been through together. This had been a
long-standing hope of mine that had aoe set aside in the pursuit of my
career in the practice and teaching of psychoanalysis. With a switch to
full-time hospital work in 1961 at the Maimonides Medical Center. | had
the Opportunity to pursue my own research interests, In 1946 there had
been an abortive attempt to reconstitute the group for the purpose of
In 1933, we decided to call ourselves the Bindelof Socicty in honor of the purported entity
who announced his presence at one of our sittings, Larry and t had calling cards made at the
time which simply suid, “The Bindelof Society for Psvchical Research.” 1 hav: carried ope in
my wallet ever since. A copy of my original is reproduced in Figure |
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The Bindelof Sitter Group
holding séances to try to recapture some of the phenomena known to us in
our earlier efforts. When we came together in 1966 it was with the tacit
understanding that whatever psychical phenomena we were capable of
eenerating had run its course in our adolescence, and we were now
weathered to take a last look at it and to pool our recollections of it in some
definitive way. (Yet. as already noted, there were to be subsequent reunions
1969 and 1971.) -
For the first time in 33 years, in 1966 all of the surviving members on «
(See Figure 2. A
c ; ame together
eroup with the exception of one, Tom, came tos 2S
. 970 is presented in Figure
picture of Tom with his grandson taken c. 1970 1s prese ted s
, - conard,
Fig. 2. 1966 Reunion, from left to right: Monte, Larry, Leon
Howard, George, Gil
Nhat meeting had a special quality of its own. Despite the diverse paths we
hud followed in life we congealed into a unity that transcended both time
ind our differing interests and lifestyles. There we were, presumably a .
mature and settled stage of our own lives, unabashedly owning up to being
"SCC : 1ota of personal hang
mixed-up, unhappy adolescents, each with a full que |
at the time the sittings took place. One of us {I eonard| was the most
tipys
1 16-year-old, but had the others
outspoken in fis discussion of himself as a
S }
beech ¢ jul ily us tt ink it would huve heen obyviouw that the quality ol
e que als ‘ .
spared none of us. Taken as a whole we were floun
adolescent disarray :
much in need of a stabilizing influence, and
dering, confused, searching
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Fig. 3. Tom with his grandson, c. 1970,
individually beset by all the perturbations and excesses that characterize
most adolescents, ranging from insufferable vanity and arrogance to pas-
sionate self-pity and despair. For some of us the sittings helped in the
search for a father figure, For others it offered the comfort. security. and
stimulation of a new home away trom home, of new and exciting parents
in place of the dull and familiar ones. The home in which most of the
sittings took place [Gilbert's] had much that was lacking in the homes of
the rest of us, Music and books came to life there in a different way than
| had ever experienced before, :
This was the emotional climate that shaped all that occurred and perhaps
even created much that did occur. But not all, Of that we were, still are, and
as far us I can see, always will be convinced. It is in the nature of this
particular group to agree on little clse as we were extremely individual in
outlook. What united us was the conviction that something significantly
paranormal did occur. We have remained united about this even though we
may differ about the way we individually interpreted the nature of the
paranormal experience itself,
During this and the subsequent meetings in 1969 and 1971 we continued
to assess the material on hand. Despite the gaps and flaws in our memory
we soon realized how much material we did have available, Most of the
written messages had been preserved, as had the original photographs. 1
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still had in my possession the photographic plates in various stages of
decay. As the caretaker of the records, | also had the minutes | had kept and
the agendas | prepared in advance of the meetings; agendas which, inci-
dentally, rarely unfolded as planned once things got going, In addition to
these uctual “products” of the sittings there were a number of written
weounts, one by myself in the spring of 1933, one by Larry in 1934,
another by myself in 1946, and one by Howard in 1966. A later account
was written by Leonard in 1985. Subsequent to the reunions, | had an
interview with one of the original sitters [Tom] whose whereabouts was not
known in 1966 and obtained statements from several others who partici
pated at various times in the sittings.
Many skeletons were rattled in the course of these get-togethers, but one
in particular was not easy for me to get out of the closet. It centered around
the task of finally going public with these strange youthful adventures
Although 1 did not hesitate to give a full account of these happenings in
intimate and very personal settings, it was many years before | overcame
ny own resistance to going further. Early in my career there was some
concern with how my colleagues in psychiatry would react to something so
heyond their own experience. Later on, as | became more identified with
parapsychology, | had misgivings about its reception by those eager young
scientists so determined to statistically prove the reality of psi through
fool-proof laboratory techniques.
My fellow sitters did not share these concerns, but each of us has had to
settle accounts with this part of our past. It was as if we had been living
with these skeletons (or ghosts) in our respective closets, opening them to
view only under very special circumstances, Those closet doors kept
opening, in different ways to be sure, for each of us, but speaking for
myself, they never stayed open too long for fear of rebulf or ridicule. The
aging process, my conviction about their authenticity, the response of
Gardner Murphy to hearing about them in the 1940s and to his reading of
the unedited transcript of our 1966 meeting all revived my interest in
seeing that a public record should be available.
My earlier efforts to embed the actual happenings in a fictionalized
account had failed. In retrospect, I'm glad it turned out that way. Having
it coauthored would simply have been an expeditious way of getting
something out before | had the time and leisure to get to it myself. Had it
heen successfully fictionalized, it would have reached a wider audience,
hut the direction | saw this taking, particularly with regard to the second
attempt, made me feel that the embellishments were too high a price to pay.
My deepest desire is to present it in my own voice and to assume the
responsibility for staying as close to the facts as possible, As | noted earlier,
it was Rhea White's openness and point of view of psi in the plice of things
that provided me with the stimulus to do it in the way | really wanted to
Here is the outline of the Bindelot monoyraph proper
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PLAN OF PRESENTATION
Preface to This Version
Part I: Overview and Background
Introduction
The Participants
Roles and Relationships: Then and Now
Gilbert's Poltergeist
Early Sittings Prior to M. U.
Summary of the Early Days Prior to M. U.
Part I: The Period of My Participation in the Group—Early Days
My Introduction to Psychic Phenomena (1932-1933)
Sources Used in Compiling This Section
Method
Early Results
Evaluative Comments
Part Il: The Period of My Participation in the Group—Bindelof Days
Our Encounter with Dr. Bindelof (1933-1934)
Sources Used in Compiling This Section
Description of the Apparatus
Active Phase (September-December 1933)
Termination Phase (January-April 1934)
Commentary
Part IV: The Bindelof Story as a Shared Exceptional Human Experience
Overview of Our Longitudinal, Shared EHE
Sources Used in Compiling This Section
The Core Group Revisited
Self-Deception, Fraud, Collusion?
Dr. Bindelof: Who? What? When?
The Interim (1934-1966)
The Reunions (1966, 1969, 1971)
The Bindelof Experience and Its Life Impact
References
THE PARTICIPANTS
Core Group
Gilbert Roller. Retired television producer and writer (referred to as Gil
or Gilbert).
Leonard Lauer, Deceased; died in 1988. Metal worker and later vice-
president of 4 metallurgical firm (referred to variously as Leonard, Len, or
Jeff).
Gilbert Laurence. California businessman, now retired but with a con-
tinuing interest in theater (referred to as Larry and in the Iranseripts of the
reunions as Larry Levin),
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George Keiser. Deceased; died soon after the 1971 reunion. Public
relations career,
Howard Frisch. Antiquarian book dealer.
Tom Loeb. Deceased. Poet and into a variety of other undertakings (later
referred to as Tom Newman). —
Montague Ullman. Psychoanalyst, psychiatrist, parapsychologist, and
dream researcher (referred to as Monte or M. U.).
In addition, there were a number of others who participated sporadically:
Leo Keiser. Deceased. Leonard's cousin (referred to as Lance) who
virticipated in the pre-1932 series. ; ;
' Eleanor Turmo. Gilbert’s aunt but contemporary with Gilbert in age
(referred to as Ellie). oe
Horace Joseph. Engineer, living in California. Attended many of the
sittings. -
William Weinman, He was a classmate of mine at City College (referred
to as Willie).
Numerous others attended and their accounts will be noted in appropriate
sections,
Roes AND RELaTionsHies: THEN AND Now
Gilbert Roller
Gil was the one who had a history of poltergeist, and who started to sit
with Larry and Len prior to 1932. His mother was said to have had psychic
powers. Although we were of the same age, I recall being impressed by
Gil’s quick wit and lively imagination, That combination often served to
release anxieties and tensions in the group. Knowing of his earlier polter-
yeist experience, | held him in some awe, | also envied his being more
unabashedly open and less inhibited in his behavior than | was. | had no
contact with Gil once the séances terminated in 1934 until we tried again
i» hold sittings in 1946. Then, again, there was a lapse until the reunion in
1966. Since the last reunion in 1971 we have met occasionally socially and
in connection with the earlier attempts at preparing an account for publi-
coton,
leonard Lauer
Leonard was a natural leader, Handsome, smart, and self-confident, he
was a steadying hand in the group and generally acted as spokesperson. He
was also knowledgeable about the literature of psychical research and the
one Eknew most about as our friendship continued to grow over the years.
It actually began in our childhood when we were both members of a boys
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club that met for outings in Van Cortlandt Park on Saturday mornings. It
was my introduction to football. | played center. Leonard was quarterback,
as might be expected. He was a good athlete and could toss a football like
a pro, We continued to be casual friends at the three-year high school we
attended, but a real friendship didn’t develop until we started City College
in September of 1931. | had just turned 15. Leonard was a few months
older, We were both majoring in science. We had one class together in
comparative anatomy where Leonard and | were partners in dissecting the
dogtish. He did most of the dissecting. | watched. It was the pattern of our
relationship, It was sometime during our second year that Leonard told me
of the séances he, Gil, and Larry had been conducting over the prior
two-year period. He dropped names like Sir Oliver Lodge, William
Crookes, William James, Cesare Lombroso, F, W. H. Myers, and was most
insistent that T read The Law of Psychic Phenomena by Thomson Jay
Hudson (1893/1970), which I did. That was a breathtaking introduction to
u whole new world. Considering my reverence for the printed word,
Hudson's portrayal of the extraordinary powers referring to the subjective
mind seemed logical and unassailable, | was hooked. Leonard dropped out
of college toward the end of his third year (he completed his degree in his
60s with honors) and went to work as a sheet-metal worker. We lost touch
with each other until soon after my return from overseas in 1945, Leonard
Wats NOW & prosperous executive in the firm he worked for, was married,
had a family, and had kept up his varied intellectual pursuits, mainly in the
lich! of psychology. We met from time to time, mostly to talk over old
limes, This led to our effort to make another attempt at sitting in 1946,
Much happened in Leonard's life between 1946 and 1966. He suffered
from a serious sleep disorder in the form of episodes of sleep apnea. His
disturbed sleep led to a tendency to nod off during the day. Driving home
one night he fell asleep at the wheel, crashed into a tree, and suffered a
fractured jaw, knee, and hip, He remained in traction for many months and
was left with a limp and a much altered appearance. His marriage, always
a stormy one, ended. He had a second marriage, which also ended in
divorce but on friendly terms and where a close and endearing relationship
continued up to the time of his death in the summer of 1988.
My feeling toward Leonard in our youth was a mix of admiration and
envy. He was much more his own person than | was at the time, freer in his
dealings with his parents than I was, and more adventuresome with girls,
Ata time when necking was still an achievement for me, he told me one
day how delightful it was to wake up in the morning with the first sight
greeting his eyes being the beautiful brown tresses of the girl he had slept
with, | hesitated to introduce him to any girls | was dating, having had more
than one fall for him, | was also intrigued by Leonard's mother. She was
a very striking looking woman. | saw Leonard's relationship with his
mother as two adults respectful of each other's way of life, something quite
different from my own situation where my views on religion and psychic
phenomena were quite foreign and upsetting to my parents. His mother
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(Helen Lauer) participated in the sittings for a short period. I did not know
Leonard's father. His parents were separated in his teens, and he rarely
spoke of his father.
After a second episode of falling asleep at the wheel and totaling his car,
| sent Leonard to a sleep disorder clinic where the diagnosis of sleep apnea
wus made. From then on he slept using an oxygen tank next to his bed.
Leonard enjoyed good food, smoked too much, and finally succumbed to
au he tack. ;
pac a to miss Leonard, We had hit it off since childhood. I miss his
counsel and the help he could have provided in the preparation of this
wecount, His recall was sharper than mine, He never tired of talking about
ihe Bindelof days and took delight in stimulating interest and excitement in
ihe younger generation, particularly his step-daughter, Judith Malamud,
wow a psychologist. Shortly before he died, she pursuaded him to do a
iaping. He once again recounted the experience,
Lconard and his former wife Rachel lived separatately, but kept in close
touch, and dined out together several times a week. Leonard often told me
their real love for each other began the same day their divorce was granted.
Rachel, a brilliant and accomplished woman, was the director of the Straus
Vhinking and Learning Center at Pace University until her death several
years ago. She once told me that Jeff (as he came to be known later in life)
was the smartest man she had ever known. ae
Leonard died alone. To spare Rachel the pain, | was the one to identify
ihe body at the morgue. | broke down.
Larry Levin
Larry was the third member of the original triumvirate, He, along
with Gilbert and Leonard, was there from the beginning to the end. A
budding actor with an irrepressible sense of humor and a strong CZ,
it was easy for him to take center stage to the delight of the rest of us,
We took frequent respites during a sitting, and Larry's antics took the
cdge off our tensions. There was, however, a serious side to Larry. |
ihink he was the one most personally moved and affected by our contact
with Dr. Bindelof, a purported entity, a physician still interested in
healing. One result of our experiments in “psychic photography was a
picture of Dr. Bindelof. To this day Larry still carries that picture in his
wallet, a
Larry dropped out of high school to join Eva Le Gallienne s Civie
Repertory Theater as an apprentice. After terminating his theatrical career
in the East, he moved to California where he was highly successful in a
dumber of business enterprises while remaining actively connected with
the theater, Larry and [resumed our friendship on my return from overseas
in 1945, when we suw each other on his occasional trips to New York. He
has enjoyed his retirement and has kept up his contact with Gilbert as well
ws mnysell,
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Tom Loeb/Newman
Tom had a wild streak that was evident in the 1930s, and it led him on
an adventurous course for the rest of his life. He was a hippie before there
were hippies. He was a poet and loved reading aloud to us in a clear
resonant voice stanzas from T, S. Eliot's “The Wasteland.” He was a
regular sitter but with not infrequent absences for which he was berated by
Dr. Bindelof. He was a free soul, perhups freer than any of the rest of us.
I recall being at his home one day and being amazed at the disdainful way
he treated his mother.
We next connected in 1946 when he joined with the others in the
sittings that were held then, We corresponded briefly in the late 40s
when he was working in New Orleans. | then lost sight of him until
1972 when I relocated him and arranged for a taped interview in Los
Angeles. | was shocked by his appearance. He was dying of cancer,
emaciated and jaundiced as a result of liver metastases, What was
unchanged was that deep resonant voice as he welcomed the opportu-
nity to talk of the Bindelof experience. He had a keen recall of those
days.
When | met him in 1972 he was lying on a hospital bed in a small room
in building that housed other members of a commune, In one corner of
the room were two large wicker baskets filled with what he insistently
declared was the juiciest marijuana anywhere. He spoke of his life in
Mexico and listed among his various activities importing marijuana and
gunrunning. Tom died a short time later.
Howard Frisch
Howard attended regularly, Possessed of a certain shyness, he was the
quietest member of the group. | experienced in him a gentle, thoughtful
presence who on occasion displayed a good sense of humor. | knew
Howard slightly in grade and high school, and then met him again when |
joined the group. He was a good friend of Gil’s, and | think this was the
basis of his participation rather than any deep interest in the field. Howard's
interests were literary. He opened und still maintains an antiquarian book
store, While it is a small operation, he has gained a considerable reputation
among book dealers for the selection he carries and for his ability to locate
long out-of-print books, Howard and I have kept in touch following the first
reunion in 1966, and he has been most helpful in finding books where
others failed,
George Keiser
He was at very few of the sessions that | attended, and my recollection
of him from that time is quite vague. George was a cousin of Leonard's. He
died in 1973,
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leo Keiser
Leo was also a cousin of Leonard's, He was active in the group before
| came and was there sporadically during the period | was. My recollection
of him was also very vague. He died quite young.
There were many others: Ellie. Gilbert's aunt (contemporary with him in
ae), as well as Horace and Willie, attended a number of sessions. Many
others Came to visit and/ or participate on occasion,
In sum, the friendship of Gilbert and Howard has endured through the
years as had the friendship of Leonard and me, Larry had kept up with all
ul us on his visits to New York once or twice a year, Leonard and Gilbert
yrew apart and, as far as T know, they had little contact with each other after
he last reunion in 1971. This might have been the situation between
Leonard and myself also had | not taken the initiative back in the 194¢ Is. He
tended to be a self-sufficient kind of guy and very much a loner as far as
contucts outside his family and his work. Larry accepted all that happened
iv the course of the sittings at face value. There was no doubt in his mind
hut that we had contacted a deceased entity, perhaps even more than one,
wnd that Dr. Bindelof was what he said he was, Leonard and I had questions
about the survival nature of what we had come across, but we had no doubt
about its genuineness as psychic phenomena, Gil was somewhere in
hetween, believing in the survival of the soul for personal reasons rather
than only on the basis of our sittings,
Gisert’s PoureRGEIST
Because of his earlier poltergeist experiences and his family history we
regarded Gilbert as having more mediumistic power than any of the rest of
us. Although his presence didn’t ensure success at a sitting, I believe we all
tcl nothing would occur in his absence, I put it that way because I didn t
recall his ever being absent. When we got together for our first reunion on
luly 31, 1966 [Gilbert, Howard, Leonard, Larry, George, and myself], we
began with an effort on my part to explore Gils background and early
experiences. The following is taken directly from the transcript. An occa-
sional word is inserted in brackets to make the meaning clear,
Group Interview With Gilbert (July 31, 1966)
Monte: Gil, perhaps you might begin by telling us a little bit about what
there was in the way of your own personal family background that sort of
helped in initiating this whole experience.
Gil: (would say that the first direet experience | had was this paranormal
phenomenon of poltergeist. We had this experience, | think, When | was
about 1S probably even earlier than that-Pd say 12 of 13. Somewhere
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around that. | don’t remember the exact date, but at any rate, there was a
very pronounced phenomenon in the house: the usual poltergeist manifes-
tations, that is, objects flying through the air, all sorts of things of that
nature, and markings on the walls [in crayon], smashing glass, and various
things like that. This was my first direct experience with the phenomenon,
ulthough | did know of psychic phenomena through my mother’s interest
in the subject. That was really my introduction to it, and from there on, of
course, | had a permanent interest in it and carried that forward to this day.
Monte: Could you tell us a litte bit about what your mother’s back-
ground in this was?
Gil: Well, my mother established her interest in it through reading about
it first. This was her first knowledge of it, Then she sat with the Dolly
Sisters," they were in the show together, and she suggested that they have
a séance, and much to their surprise they had almost immediate results —
manifestations, and it appeared that one of the Dolly sisters (1 think Jenny
Dolly, who is now dead—I think they're both dead) was quite mediumistic
and had some extremely interesting messages. | really should have brought
those. You might have been interested to know about them. They were
prophetic messages that came true very accurately: the results were very
surprising, and from that day forward, my mother always had an interest in
it and spoke to me about it, but as | said, my first direct experience was with
poltergeist phenomenon.
Larry: | just want to say that | remember newspaper articles that Gilbert
showed me at the time, which was after the occurrences, but this was one
of the things that led me to participate when we first started trying to
experiment ourselves,
Gil: As a matter of fact, the case did achieve some notoriety because of
the violence of it, and as a matter of fact it was investigated by Hereward
Carrington, and of course, these things. when they revolve around children,
are always suspect und the neighbors were inclined to say that | was a bit
of 4 psychopath, ete. However, the situations which arose could not have
involved me because | was absent during some of those phenomena.
Carrington investigated this at the request of my mother* and he found the
phenomenon to be absolutely genuine, and as a matter of fact, some of the
most violent demonstrations of the phenomena occurred during his inves-
tigations.
Monte: Where did you live at the time?
Gil: We lived on Riverside Drive then—1 39th Street, and as I say, it was
quite an experience because I'd never seen anything like this.
*A vaudeville team Gil's mother was associated with in her youth
‘Gil later corrects himself and says it was his father, He alse corrects himself later about
Carrington considering it genuine. In a recent interview (1993) | again queried him about this,
He said it was his father who insisted on Carrington coming in, He feels his father, whe
wanted none of this "psychic business.” may have had an influence on Carringion’s negative
report
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Monte: Did your mother, in her sittings, have physical phenomena?
Gil: Yes. You mean prior to this? Of course, you see we did have
séances at the time (my mother and | would sit alone as a matter of fact),
and request... we called this entity or manifestation or whatever you want
i call it—we called it “Liz.”
Monte: Can you place this in time?
Gil: Monte, | can’t very accurately. | would say | was about 13.
Monte: And you're how old now?
Gil: Fifty-one. which would make this hundreds of years ago, but at any
mite...
Monte: Around 1928 then . . .
Gil: Ws around there—'27, °28. And of course it's a maddening thing
hoecuuse it was affecting our entire [life], My stepfather at the time had no
patience with this sort of thing; he couldn't comprehend it at all and it made
living there extremely difficult, My mother and | would have these im-
promptu séances and actually request a demonstration of this thing, and
whatever we asked... We'd say “throw something,” and you'd hear this
violent projectile going through the air. They were hairpins mostly. My
mother had long hair which was fashionable at that time . . . and the arsenal
really comprised these hairpins, you see, that she wore, and you could hear
the “ping” as it struck the wall and something would tinkle to the floor, and
you could find them all over the place, and suddenly a dish would be
smashed.
Monte: What were the most striking physical effects?
Gil: Well, the violence of it, and the ability to call on it, It was almost
us though there were an invisible entity in the house and you could say,
“Liz. throw something,” and this would be acknowledged immediately.
And then these huge crayon markings on the wall. There Was one message
which was quite frequent and the word was “Go.” . .. just “Go.” “Go,” all
over the place, and of course, finally we did leave the apartment: we felt
that might have been part of the cause of the difficulty, but it was a violent
phenomena [sic] and most unusual. = |
George: Wasn't there specitically a time when you'd be sitting in the
bathtub and your mother would be out in the living room und she'd say,
“Stop throwing the hairpins.”
Gil: Oh, yes, This occurred, ;
George: And if you |were| around two corners, this would be physically
impossible.
Gil: Oh, this was definitely established. You see, unfortunately polter-
evist—the classic poltergeist—seems to have a child or adolescent is
suspect, and this of course, is suspect to the uninitiated.
Monte; Can you recall what your own subjective response to these
events was at the time’
Gil: Not particularly, no. T wasn't disturbed by the phenomenon and |
dow't think | bad any particular objection to it, you might say, or repug
hance... was just an amusing experience and as a matter of fact, TP found
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it sort of interesting. Many neighbors came in to observe: it was almost a
sideshow, you might say—it was that predictable.
Monte: Was there any particular time of the day that it occurred?
Gil: Incessantly. | mean, all day long you would hear this barrage of
hairpins: there was no end to it.
Monte: How long a period did this encompass?
Gil: | would say almost a year and a half, and during all this it was a
thoroughly predictable phenomenon. | would say | was about 13. Give or
take a couple of years.
Monte; Do you know of any other factors in your mother's family
history that might have predisposed her to this kind of experience?
Gil; No, except that my mother was thoroughly familiar with it. It was
not a mysterious or inexplicable thing.
Monte; Well. in other words, were there any other members in your
mother’s family who had this talent?
Gil: No. My mother seemed to exhibit a certain amount of mediumistic
ability, OF course she sat at the slightest provocation; she was extremely
interested in this, and if she ever found anybody who was interested in the
subject. she would persuade them to [sit].
Monte; Now this interest oceurred in her adult life?
Gil: Oh yes. But prior to my being born; as a matter of fact, it goes way
back into her career, and as I say, it started with the Dolly Sisters,
Howard: You had some experience with your mother and the ouija
board, didn’t you?
Gil: Oh, yes. The ouija board was part of our arsenal, but this particular
phenomenon IT didn't pay too much attention to.
Monte; Are there any other family antecedents or anybody else that
anybody might consider relevant to this, or any other questions about the
phenomena Gil has described that anybody can add to? Now, can you tell
us about the cessation of this? Was it sudden? Did it suddenly disappear?
Did it disappear on your moving to another location?
Gil: Yes. The moving seemed to change the situation. There were many
sporadic manifestations after that, but as I grew older, as a matter of fact,
it just seemed to come to a certain peak in my life and then tapered off and
that was the end of it; we never had another spontaneous phenomena [sic]
like that again,
Group Interview with Gilbert (May 15, 1971)"
Unidentified: Did it occur at a time when no one was in the house?
Gil: That's hard to know, except when we came buck we'd find “Go”
written on the walls...
"When the speaker identifies himself, he or she will be designated by name. When the voice
is Hot recognizable or not identified, Unidentified will be used in place of the mame
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Unidentified: And presumably that took place when you were out,
Gil: This | don’t know.” ; ;
Unidentified: Excuse me, Gil, One question. There's something that—
talking about the energy young people have—did this poltergeist thing
ever happen when you were there without your mother? ;
Gil: Now you're asking me specific questions and | honestly don't
remember, In all honesty, | can't remember.
Unidentified: 1 want to ask one question, | remember being shown by
you or Len a newspaper article.
Unidentified: \ remember that, The Journal or the American.
Unidentified: Yes, the Journal. It would be interesting to look it up. Do
you know where?
Gil: It was the Journal-American, and it was on the occasion [of]
Hereward Carrington coming up and investigating.
Unidentified: Was it the Journal-American then?
Gil: Whatever it was called. It was a Hearst paper, but | do know that
Carrington came to investigate the thing and he was of the opinion that |
was doing it. It was his opinion that | was doing it, As a matter of fact, it
was my father who brought in Mr, Carrington, | believe, | do know he came
up and went through my pockets and [| had a couple of hairpins and a
rubber band and some marbles in my pockets, you know, everything but a
pet frog, so he put all these things together—the hairpins and the rubber
bands, etc., and he came up with “psychotic, moody, and while he was
there, there was no phenomenon at any time—at any time of any kind, and
most of his analysis that | remember was a picture of me being a subversive
of some sort, So his final conclusion was that he saw nothing that could be
properly called poltergeist. All the indications pointed to a highly emo-
tional child who was very probably the cause.
Unidentified: Did you flatly deny that?
Gil: | didn’ teven know he had written it, and I couldn't care less. I mean,
it was his opinion, and he didn’t see anything happen, and he did find, when
he went through my pockets, some hairpins and a rubber band which, of
course, you could very easily shoot, but he completely ignored the fact that
this thing occurred when | wasn’t home, and things occurred that Lcouldn’t
have done. Well, the point | want to make is there were things he never
suw. There were things that occurred while I was not there and mother was
there alone, and mother always claimed dad had him do this to invalidate
nomenon,
ay See 1 wish I had known about this when | went to visit him [Car-
rington| in Hollywood,
Git: Well anyway, he made out his report and he placed the burden on
me.
Unidentified: You don’t have a copy of this, do you?
‘Referring specifically to the wrting on the walls
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Gil: No, you may be able to find one though. But his conclusion was that
I was responsible for it,
Unidentified: How long a period would you say this went on?
Gil: | would say, and this is purely 4 guess, about a period of eight
months. It began as an isolated thing and built to a climax.
Malamud’s Tapes of Leonard (January 20, 1985)
The material that follows is from a tape of the recollections of Leonard
[JefY] Lauer made on January 20, 1985 in the presence of his step-daughter,
Dr. Judith Malamud, who put questions to him from time to time. This
excerpt describes Leonard's carly encounter with Gilbert and his recall of
what Gil told him of the poltergeist.”
Leonard: \n the summer of 1931 or 1932 1 was living in Washingon
Heights. A family that had recently moved in across the street had one child
my age, Gil. | was 15. Gil and I got to be very friendly. I found that before
they had moved here they had had a poltergeist experience in their home.
One of the things in his house was the distribution of oatmeal uniformally
over the carpets. The “spirit” in their house was called “Liz,” and years
after when we spoke of Liz we spoke of her as though she were a thing: Gil,
his mother, Larry and 1. Oatmeal and hair-pins were Liz's thing. Olga’s”
hair was long, done up in a bun. One of Liz's games was to shower a door
with hairpins on the floor.
Judith: And there was nobody else in the room?
Leonard: Nobody else in the room. Gil’s father, who was really his
stepfather, while he was enormously fond of Gilbert, never could buy the
explanation of poltergeist. To him, somehow or other, Gilbert did all of this
stuff and it drove him nuts because he was fond of Gil whom he saw as
doing this to get even with him, for whatever | don't know. There was a
long history of this stuff and some of it 1 ran into at the tail end when it
was never dependable. Before they had moved across the street from
us... there was a period of time where they could depend on it every
month, Near the end of it Liz started to take to writing on the walls in
crayon: “GO, GO.” They finally picked up and moved out. Gil and his
mother left Eddie [Gil referred to Eddie as his father. He was actually his
stepfather] in their flat. [Explains this was the home they lived in before,
hot too far away.) They moved out and moved across the street from us and
it all quieted down. Then peace was made between Gil's mother and Ed,
and further incidents of that were very, very few. Some of the hairpin
"The reader will note discrepancies as the same events are recalled at different times in
different accounts. Memory being what it is and the accounts ranging from 33 10 over 50 years
from the time of the events, such discrepancies are inevitable. For the most part they
concemed minor details but in a few instances our failure to get further clarification was
frustrating.
“Gils mother
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business and the oatmeal business and one other: the destruction of a very
beautiful electric train engine. Stuff like that. | had later seen enough of this
to know that the reports were factual. | had it confirmed in front of my own
eyes. Atany rate, Gil suspected that his mother was slightly psychic and we
decided if the Dolly Sisters could do it we could do it.
Judith: Did Gil feel he was psychic; did he think he was doing it?
Leonard: | think Gil felt he was psychic.
Next, Gilbert recalls Leonard's reaction to his disclosure about the
poltergeist and the decision to hold sittings (Reunion 1966). - M. U.
Gil: | do remember the actual beginning"? of this thing started with my
speaking of it to Leonard. He had no previous knowledge of such phe-
nomenon [sic], and as a matter of fact, we had an argument about it because
I told him some of these things which did occur and he expressed extreme
skepticism about it, He had no patience with the whole subject . . . and he,
as a matter of fact, had no use for the subject, you see—he was completely
skeptical about it. However, | was rather offended about this because of the
experience | had had and with his impatience with the whole idea, and so
I suggested that he do some reading on the subject and | recommended
Hudson's book, Law of Psychic Phenomena, and Leonard of course, being
an extremely intelligent person, immediately saw that there was some urea
of interest here, so from that point on he became much more interested in
the subject, and we sat alone for the first couple of times, I think, and got
no results, However, it continued and | think that was the nucleus,
Ear.y Srrmncs Prior ro M. U,
Reunion Accounts of Initial Sittings 1931}-Autumn 1932
Because | was not a party to the initial formation of the sitter group, this
section is drawn from accounts by those who were there. The sitters were
Gil and Leonard, soon joined by Larry and then Leo. There was general
agreement at the reunions that the starting date for these sittings was
sometime in 1931. Leonard recalls his initial reaction to having a sitting
and to the results that occurred (Reunion, 1966),
Leonard: My attitude was truly skeptical but because of the rapport
between us, it didn’t occur, and | couldn't conceive of the fact that Gilbert
could be fabricating. It didn’t occur to me. So it was a kind of skepticism
which doesn’t mean anything—one that defies somebody to show me, but
invites and is anxious to be shown. And on the basis of this we sat that very
evening! We darkened the room and the two of us sat at opposite sides of
the table. | think it was a bridge table. It was the kind of thing where we
couldn't be sure of any sounds and | don’t know whether we had any
"The curly stings
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results at all that first sitting or not, but we persisted, and for a while we
may have sat several times in the next few weeks—two weeks even... I
guess you talked about the table markings'' . . . there were hiatuses.'? Just
how long they were, I don’t know, but when we finally got this rather light
table to tilt, we had so much, we had to share this, and [ think Larry was
the first one to join. How often we three sat I can’t say. I do know that after
the first couple of times, again there was a major step in which we began
to try uilking to “this thing” by spelling out the alphabet and getting it to
ult at the desired letter, | wouldn't say that any of these communications
were very interesting in terms of content, but that they occurred was very
exciting. And, of course, the thing that I remember most about that
particular trio—the climax of whatever developed with us three, was rather
violent table movements in which we skidded around the dark room in
order to keep up with this thing... and then some pretty dramatic and
powerful levitation... A couple of times the thing would get beyond
where we could reach and then there was this crashing down to the floor.
At one time Larry reported—he was shorter in those days; we two fellows
were tall—that he could no longer reach the top of the table and had
grabbed the legs, and it was afterward that he had pulled himself up so that
his feet were not on the ground. Do you remember that? Now this is a
recollection, Apparently there's something that | may have added to this,
but this was part of my memory—that this darn thing was up there . . .
Larry: | remember it being up beyond my reach . . .
Leonard: |Y \es, well | had the feeling that you had tried to pull it down
but, then again, this wasn’t my experience, but what | think | remembered
from what Larry reported when we stopped. I think, again chronologically,
this is hard... | can give you what I think the order was . . . | think the next
addition to the group was Leo. If I'm not mistaken, I think Leo was the one
who made it a foursome . . . In this area it began to be for us a demonstra-
tion thing. We didn't have the kind of intelligent phenomenon that later
became identified with Bindelof, but we did have the ability to generate a
hell of a lot of force and a very dramatic and convincing demonstration of
telekinesis.
Leonard attempted to give a more detailed account of these early sittings
(1969 reunion).
Leonard: There were just the two of us and we were sitting there
attempting to duplicate some of this [sic] phenomena intentionally, and we
used a small nightstand or night table. We sat for 10-15-20 minutes, with
no assured results, then we turned on the light and rested. Then we rolled
back the rug and put the table on the bare floor to see if it would slide: the
motion was so imperceptible that we chalk-marked the floor around the
"Referring to chalk marks Leonard put on the floor outlining the legs of the table to detect
any moton,
"Referring to intervals between the meetings
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jews in order to see whether or not what we thought was motion was in fact
motion. This was Where it was at the first couple of times. Yes, we thought
it moved because there it was—out of the ring. It wasn't the kind of thing
that would inspire one to go back immediately and try again the very =
night, but we did try, and we had gotten to the point where the table wou
tilt, very definitely. Does this strike a resonant chord!
Gil; My memory isn’t as good as yours, so go ahead, - ses
Leonard: \nitially, most of the time we sat at my place. First we didn’t
wet knocks, and we tried communication by having the table ult ata desired
level. | can’t remember any messages or even words spelled out that meant
« goddamn thing, except all that seemed to happen as a result of this kind
of concentration was [when] the table tilting became more affirmative and
less vague. It would tilt definitely at D, X, and Q. It didn’t add up to ppt
any sense, but it did help us develop. On other occasions we would gel
raps, as I remember, and it was at this point where we really had something
to show, | don’t remember what the occasion was, but we wanted very
much to show it off to somebody, and you [Larry] were Sucker #1. ba
started just about where we were, with table tiltings, and a new thing was
added. We could no longer sit comfortable [sic] at the table with our hands
on it because the table wouldn't stay in that one section of the room,
Larry: The first time T sat at Gil’s was later, within a few weeks or so,
and it was at night when we went over to your house, because iL remember
your folks were out, and we sat at that bridge table in the living room.
Leonard: AML can give you is an impression. One of the qualitative
differences between sitting & trois and & deux was that instead of sitting to
generate it to run around the Rosie, particularly when we were trying to get
the table off the ground, many times we would chase all around the mite
table in my living room—all around the damn living room us gi "
were trying to generate a force to lift, but frequently it would not lift. It
would fall over; and frequently it would fall over on its leg.
Monte: Let me just pin this down a bit. You're talking about 4 night
uble, right?
o Taonant We used both a night table from my room and a bridge table.
This happened for [us] three. In other words I tried to describe the ae
of difference of the phenomenon as it developed or as a consequence o
Larry's coming into the group; whichever variable was greater, | don
know. But this is one of the things that happened. And also, we had
levitations. One of the earliest that I recall (and it may not be the first) was
the one involving the night table (the small one) in which the thing i:
way-the-hell up. in the dark of course, and Larry exclaiming, lean : res
the top of it; I'm holding on oo This is like an indelible experience
mind, Do you remember that!
" sea | was quite short then, I hadn’t reached my height yet. I was only
about 15 at the time and | hadn't yet grown to my normal 5'10" which I
Phe reader Should anderstund thin was a playful reference, not a serious one, ~ M. U
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ultimately reached. It was one of those image recollections. There were
other things that happened in the Bindelof group since then that are not
nearly that precise and vivid.
Malamud's Tape of Leonard Regarding More About the Early Days of
the Group Sittings (1985)
Leonard: And they began, I guess, in the fall of "31, | decided we would
sit, just the two of us, The structure and the format of our sitting was
nothing we dreamed up. It would seem that it was kind of a tradition. | had
been reading in some papers that were available in the public library, the
Journal of the (London) SPR |Journal of the Society for Psychical Re-
search). Generally speaking, they darkened the room, everybody was quict,
some person acted as spokesman, and you talked to thin air as though there
were somebody there. And in these things | had been reading about,
something responded. So we adopted a similar format, and the first half
dozen sittings were in my house.
Judith; What was the format?
Leonard: Originally we started with a bridge table, very light. We sat
when the family was out and my brother was asleep. We tumed out all the
lights and pulled down the shades. You got a reasonably darkened room.
Remember, this is New York City so there are lights all around and lights
filter in and around the shades or the blinds that you draw, etc. so, as soon
as your eyes dark-adapt, it isn’t that dark at all, You couldn't read in that
light but you could very clearly see one another and all the outlines in the
room. But we used to get it as dark as we could, Then we'd sit down and
we'd ask the table to move. And I guess in the beginning we sat for periods
of 20 minutes long which, when nothing happens, is interminable.
Judith: What were you doing with your hands?
Leonard: Oh, we used to hold hands across the table. One of the reasons
we got rid of the bridge table—there were several reasons—was that it was
a long reach, so you wound up resting your arms on the table inevitably and
that made the table much heavier than it was.
Judith: When you say you wanted the table to move do you mean to slide
across the floor?
Leonard: Any way at all! We were expecting it to slide, hopefully. As |
Say. We sat all one evening, 20 minutes, 15 minutes, light on, light off, light
on for a glass of water or milk, then back again, with virtually nothing
happening and our changing some of our tactics. like sitting side by side at
a table so we could just put our fingertips on it and hold one another's
hands without adding any weight, rolling back the carpet so the table would
be able to move over the polished wooden floor—to no avail.
Judith; How long did you keep this up with no results?
Leonard; Well, the first day with no results. The next night we sat—the
following day or two days after, | don’t know—we began to get something
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very different: a lot more “threatened movements” of the table. It didn't
really move because we put little chalk marks [around] the legs, because
after you sit there for a while and the thing creaks and moans, you don't
know if it's moved or not. That's where we started. We gave that up after
a bit but, every strain, every shift that your arms made, produces a sound,
erick, crack, crick, and there was much more of that the second night: That
was all the encouragement we needed.'*
We sat a third night and whether it was the 3rd or 4th evening of this,
I'm not sure, this darn table actually moved: “You feel it move?” “You feel
it move?” [Holding cach other's hands, imitating their excitement,} “It did
move, didn’t it?” “I'm sure!” “Your side moved more than my side.” That
kind of thing, We turned on the light and, sure enough, there was [sic] our
chalk marks where the table legs were and here was the leg. Over on Gil’s
side there was the ring and here was the leg.
Judith: How many inches would you say?
Leonard: Oh, maybe 4 or 5 inches. Big stuff! | don’t Know, but very
quickly after that the motion became quite positive. Instead of waiting
forever, we'd sit there and wait for a lithe while and all of a sudden you
could feel life in the table. [We said] “Move to the right: zhoo! [imitating |.
Move back: zhoo!” And oh, wowie! And now it was a question of barely
touching the table to make sure neither of us was doing it. And we did.
“We're gonna communicate, 'm gonna call out the letters of the alphabet
“choop’ at the letter you want.” It wasn't English, The thing would get
eager. You'd say A, zhoo! B, zhoo! C, zhoo! Or you would say A, B.C.
D. It was quiet, like chastised. Then you'd say try again. Then it wouldn't
move at all, It was quite clear we were dealing with something that acted
as though it understood what we were saying and couldn't act very
intelligently about it. We had an idea that tilting the table would be better
and it was around the tilting table thing that we switched from the bridge
table to a very solid but much smaller nightstand table. Between the twin
beds in my bedroom there was a thing built like a brick shit-house about
20" by 20°. It stood higher than the bridge table, had a shelf underneath,
four very big legs and you could not make it creak if you wanted to
{laughs}. Very rigid little piece, And we started to sit with this and since it
was much narrower, even though it was heavier, it tilted better. By the time
we could get the table to tilt we would get some kind of response, By that
1 mean a word that [was] actually spelled, Didn't mean anything particu-
larly but we didn’t need meaning.
Judith: By tilting, you mean it would lift up on 3 legs?
Leonard: On two legs. Two legs would stay down, two would come up
and it would ti, We used two tilts for no, one for yes,
Judith: How much did it weigh?
Leonard: Wowas a heavy bastard, maybe about 50 pounds, maybe 40, A
“Leonand’s joy aml cathisiaem in reliving this section is contagious, filled with wonder-
ment. fun. cxctement. ete. ~ Judith Maton
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finally, levitation of the table. There is some uncertainty as to whether or
not there were any convincing manifestations of a paranormal intelligence
at work. It was the beginning of Leonard's and Larry's passionate interest
in psychic phenomena and, through Leonard, it led to my own enduring
interest. In 1931, when these effects were noted, the sitters were all 15
years of age.
Because | believe the emotional context in which these phenomena
unfolded may very well be an important contributing factor, | want to stress
the playful and fun aspect that characterized these and later sittings. It was
the sense of adventure, fun, and excitement that kept these 15-year olds at
it. The results, combined with their reading, heightened their interest and
deepened their belief that the events they were witnessing were truly in the
tradition of psychical research,
Part Il. The Period of My Participation
in the Group—Early Days
My INrropucTION TO PsycHic PHENOMENA (1932-1933)
In September of 1932 the fall term of my sophomore year at City
College had started. Len, whom | had known since grade school, was in
several of my classes as we were both majoring in science. We were
both 16. | have a distinct recollection of Len and me walking home from
school one day when he began telling me the story of how he, Gil. and
later Larry had been holding séances and that a number of incredible
things had happened as they sat about a table in the dark, holding hands,
| believe | knew what a séance was, but that was the limit of my
knowledge when Len started to educate me about the world of psychic
phenomena, He described the results the three of them had obtained,
progressing from creaks and dubious movements of the table to defin-
itive movements, knocks and finally, levitation. He then introduced me
to words I had never heard before. He described the “poltergeist™ that
plagued Gil and his family several years earlier, He spoke of “materi-
alization” and “ectoplasm.” He had done an impressive amount of
reading and rattled off such names as William Crookes. Oliver Lodge,
F. W. H. Myers, William James. and Thomson Jay Hudson. My initial
incredulity was tempered by my respect for the written word, especially
when it was the word of someone who held a place of honor in the
pantheon of science,
Len also told me that after a lapse of several months, they were about to
resume sitting and wanted to know if | would like to join them. My high
regard for Len combined with the impressive list of names he reeled off
(including Schrenck-Notzing who, Len told me, was a psychiatrist who had
written about séances with a famous medium capable of producing mate-
riulization and ectoplasm), all made for a ready acceptance of Len’s offer.
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Looking back at an event that occurred over 70 years ago I cannot say with
any certainty precisely what my reaction was. My deepest feeling is that 1
responded with interest and was somewhat flattered to be part of
whatever Len was involved in. He suggested that | read Hudson's
(1893/1970) book, The Law of Psychic Phenomena, which | promptly
did. I think that eliminated any vestiges of doubt | may have had.
Sometime in the autumn of 1932 [ joined Len, Gil, and Larry and began
a series of regular Saturday night sittings that lasted through spring of
1934 and for some, even later. During that time a number of others,
mostly other boys our age, joined and sat regularly, forming a core
group of seven [Gil, Larry, Len, Howard, George, Tom, and myself].
Others. including girl friends, came sporadically.
Sources Usen in Cospnune This Secrien
Aside from memory, this account is drawn from the following sources
from which extensive quotations are given in the present paper:
|. A thesis I wrote for a course in logic in the spring semester of 1933.
2. An account I wrote in 1946,
3. An account by Howard in 1966,
4. Transcripts of the reunions held in 1966, 1969, and 1971.
5. An account by Len in 1985,
The transcripts and accounts run to several hundred typed pages, | have
excerpted brief sections to illustrate our collective effort to check our
memories relative to a particular incident. The completed first draft and
transcriptions of the sittings were sent to the surviving members of the core
group [Gil, Larry, and Howard] for any changes they cared to make. There
are, of course, discrepancies in some of our recollections, and these will be
noted,
Mernon
Setting, Ambiance, and Procedure
The arrangements were much as described in the introductory segments
of this narrative. The carly sessions I attended were held in the living room
of Len’s apartment. Most of the later ones were in the bedroom of Gil’s
apartment, Occasionally sessions were held elsewhere (notably, Len’s and
Tom's apartments).
Sessions were held in the evening. The procedure was to darken the
room to the extent possible and then to sit around a bridge table in Len's
apartment or a bedside table in Gil’s with our hands in contact with each
other and held lightly on the table. Gil’s bedroom could be darkened until
it was nearly total darkness. It was not possible to get the same degree of
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darkness in Len’s living room, and some degree of light adaptation oc-
curred. In the various accounts the sittings at Gil's were described as
occurring in near-total darkness. My impression was that there was enough
ambient light at times for some adaptation to occur.
We sat for periods that averaged 15-20 minutes at a time. Len usually
acted as spokesman, speaking as if to an unknown force and saying
something like: “Will you make your presence felt by moving the table?”
We would then wait patiently for any manifestation involving the table. If
nothing happened, Len would repeat the request. Whether or not we got
results, we generally did not sit for much longer than 20 minutes. The lights
would then be turned on, If we were in Gil’s apartment, we would gather
in the living room and relieve the tension with horseplay or by listening to
music (it was my introduction to classical music) or talking about what had
happened during the sitting, I recall very boisterous interludes as if we were
working out the tension and excitement generated during the sitting. It was
as if we couldn't get the record player to play loud enough. Scheherazade
and Honneger’s Pacific 23/ were our favorites. Larry (a budding actor) and
Gil, both with a quick-witted sense of humor, played off each other,
keeping the rest of us in hysterics. After the break, we would go back to
sitting. This cycle repeated itself three or four times in the course of the
evening. Depending on how productive the sittings were we might continue
until eleven or twelve at night. On leaving Gil’s apartment, several of us
would have a late night snack at a nearby cafeteria before returning home,
For the most part. | don’t believe anyone else was in either apartment at
the time we sat. There were occasions at Gil's when his mother, Olga, was
al home or Gil’s stepfather, Eddie, would be there and entertain us with his
piano playing and singing. When we did get results our mood was buoyant
und self-congratulatory.
Earvy Resuvrs
I don’t recall what happened at the very first sitting 1 attended, Accord-
ing to the 1966 reunion, Leo [Lance], a cousin of Len’s, was also there at
the time I joined. Whether or not anything happened that first night, |
joined in the resolve of the group to sit regularly in the hope of again
generating the effects that had occurred earlier when only the original three
members met,
Recollections at 1966 Reunion—Levitations
A description of the very early results involving the table is described in
the following account taken directly from my thesis, The clarifications
noted in brackets were added some time later.
The first phenomena we developed goes [sic] by the name of telekinesis, or
super-normal movement of objects, not due to any known force. In these
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experiments, we [there were four of us] used an ordinary bridge table,
keeping contact with the table and with each other by means of our hands.
[The bridge table was used at Len’s where the conditions were not as dark
as at Gil's.] The room is usually light enough to permit us to see what takes
place. After one or two moments the table would start to move, and distinct
knockings are heard, seemingly coming from beneath the table, One of the
sitters utters commands [it is immaterial who does the talking as long as all
the others are thinking along with him], and response is almost instanta-
neous. The table moves to the one whose name is mentioned. We then
managed to get the table tilting in whichever direction we asked. After
continued experiments of this type, we finally decided to get this unknown
force to elevate the table, Our carly attempts in this direction all ended in
failure. However, one night we were all thrilled by the sight of the table
rising from beneath our hands to a height of two or more feet! We repeated
this and were successful at a following trial. One time, when we had the table
up. we each individually removed our hands from its surface, To the
astonishment of all, a simple, ordinary bridge table remained suspended in
mid-air for about two seconds before collapsing to the ground. Encouraged
by our success, we kept on trying. The height of our accomplishment with
telekinesis was an experiment in which we made the table come up to our
hands which we held about two feet above. [Success without contact of the
hands we had always found rather difficult.) (UlIman, 1933)
The following summary of these early results involving the table was
prepared by me in 1946 in an abortive attempt to prepare a complete
account of our experiences:
In common with other novice investigators, we found that it was very casy
to mistake creaks and slight movements of the table, resulting of course,
from unequal pressure distribution, for knocks and telekinetic effects, It was
at the third sitting [1 am not certain of this count in retrospect. — M. U.] when
movements of the table occurred which seemed to be much more pro-
nounced than those slight movements which had occurred previously and
which we attributed to the sheer physical effort of sitting about the table with
our hands resting on it. The first phenomenon noted was a slight tilting of the
table. In the course of succeeding sessions the tilting became more frequent
and more pronounced, and there was a concomitant development of move-
ment of the table in the horizontal plane along the floor, At first, both the
tilting and the horizontal movement of the table were unpredictable in their
occurrence and intensity. Certain sittings were characterized by a complete
absence of results, or very meager results in comparison to what had gone on
before, [Similar streaks of failure occurred sporadically throughout the entire
year of work, although blank sittings became less frequent as we went
along. |
In the course of cither the second or third month [again, the exact time
relationships are not clear} it became apparent that the “force” [a bland
designation for whatever it was that was responsible for the telekinetic
effects} was capable of responding to simple commands such as a request to
tilt or move the table in a specified direction. At this stage of development,
the hands of the sitters were at all times resting on the table, The first
attempts to obtain knocks, made during this period, exhibited the same
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general development. After initial fuilure there were at first feeble noises,
easily interpreted as movements on the part of one of the sitters (e.g., creaks,
etc.), liter giving way to occasional definite but random knocks, and finally
unmistakable sharp raps occurring on command. These raps seemed to come
from the center of the tuble.
By the end of the fourth month [this may be inaccurate to the extent of
several weeks], the situation was somewhat as follows: the movements of the
table, apparently apart from any physical effects of the sitters, had developed
to 4 remarkable degree. Levitation, unsuccessfully sought at first. did occur
after repeated attempts, The table [which weighed 40-50 pounds}, with our
hands resting lightly on its surface, would rise a few inches, all four legs
being completely off the floor, Later on it rose a foot from the floor, and
finally to a point so high above our heads that we could no longer muke
contact with it. During these sessions the table would often move about the
room so fast that it was difficult for the sitters to keep up with it.
The knockings continued to vary considerably in intensity und seemed to
be the most difficult und erratic of the physical phenomena to evoke. At
times the raps would come through with frightening intensity and at other
times they would be barely audible. It soon became possible to obtain a
specified number of knocks on command. The spokesman, Len. would
address the “force” as if it were an intelligent entity. At a time when the
knocks were occurring with considerable regularity, an attempt was made to
elicit yes und no answers by having two knocks signify “no” and one knock
“yes.” Concomitant with this was an attempt to elicit messages by having the
spokesman call out the letters of the alphabet and requesting a knock after
the letter desired. Here again, the account will suffer by generalization and
limitation of memory since there remains no written record of what hap-
pened during these particular sittings.
What was uppermost in our minds was to determine, if we could, whether
or not we were dealing with discarmate entities; and, in any event, to learn
more about the nature of the force that was operative. We did establish (at
least to our own satisfaction) that we were now in contact with an intelligent
force, although it is not clear whether up to this point we had received any
definite information, such as the name of any specific deceased person, ete.
This problem, in any case, was soon lost sight of in our absorption with new
lines of endeavor, Drifting along as we had been, our general policy up to
that point had been to attempt to develop cach type of phenomenon to its
highest pitch. and then turn to another phase of investigation. In the phase
that followed, which dealt with paranormal photography, materializations,
and direct writing, our approach was somewhat different in that we struggled
with all three phenomena simultancously. The circle had increased in size by
this time and included Howard, George, and Tom.
Howard. George, and Tom became regular members of the group during
this early period [late 1932, carly 1933], Howard noted the following in his
1966 account of what was occurring at the time he joined the group:
| immediately became a regular, indeed a never-failing attendant. There were
violent table thumpings and table risings, sometimes high into the air so that
we had to literally stand up in order to keep our hands on the edge of the
table.
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In the following section, taken from a tape of the 1966 reunion," Gil
expresses the sense of the group that until levitation and gross movement
of the table, there was no way of differentiating spurious from genuine
effects, Larry recalls an early levitation that occurred during the early
period when just he, Gil, and Len were sitting.
Gil: Now when you came into the circle, we were al that point getting
levitation, weren't we?
Howard: Yes.
Monte: Now this confirms my recollection, you see, because | recall
being in at a point where we were just sitting around waiting for a little
knock to occur or a tlt to occur,
Git; Well, yes and frankly [| had no feeling of anything for these
clementary manifestations because table rappings are so deceptive. In other
words, you can have a table which creaks and mips beautifully and it’s of
course no indication of a psychic manifestation, Also tilting, I think, is
questionable in all good faith, | believe if you have eight or ten people
around a table, all concentrating, and one subconsciously without meaning
to gives a slight pressure in one direction, | think all the others, wanting the
thing to happen, automatically will contribute to this motion, and therefore
you can have a spurious manifestation which everyone will think is valid.
So I think these phenomena, being very basic, are not necessarily impres-
sive. As Howard says, he came in when we were getting levitations and |
think our method of sitting was that our feet and hands were always in
contact. One basic rule that we did have was that all—everyone’s feet—
had to be touching and also all hands had to be held. In other words, no
member was free,
Howard: Just one thing. 1m almost sure that at my first sitting [my first
attendance] the table was raised so high in the air that we were practically
standing up. Now I'm almost sure that was my first sitting—standing, as a
matter of fact.
Larry: The mention of levitation brings to mind the fact that quite early
we got levitation, because | think that's what kept us going. | don’t think
we would have kept going with just creaks, and I remember the table not
only rising completely off the ground, but actually at one point, we began
getting levitation without touching the table. We removed our hands from
the table and | remember being very impressed with the levitation and
also... .
George: Was there enough light to see this?
Larry: Yes, That was the point I was going to make. The room was not
in total darkness during this period,
Gil: Where was this? In my place?
Larry: Yes, in your bedroom on Fort Washington Avenue. | can remem-
ber that very vividly, Even trying to push the table down, | remember
Atrremded by Gil, Leonard, Larry, Howard, Geonge, and myself
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especially Gil saying, “You can't get the table down.” We were all pressing
on it, and we worked with different tables because in the beginning we used
that little night table, but then later we used a bridge table
Recollections at 1966 Reunion—Psychic Photography
Sometime in the spring of 1933 our interest shifted to psychic
photography. By that time we had gotten a bridge table to dance around
the room so rapidly that it was hard to keep up with it. We got a bridge
table to levitate, We felt we were in contact with an intelligence of some
kind, even though no clear-cut message came through by knocks in
response to spelling out the letters of the alphabet. We were ready to
move on.
Gil had an interest in photography and earlier had set up a makeshift
darkroom, No one else had any experience in developing film. In what
follows, | will supplement my own recall by references in the various
accounts about the purchase of the photographic pieces and the procedure
we followed. The following recollections are taken from the transcript of
the 1966 reunion:
Larry: Now my recollection is going with Gil and Leonard to a photog-
raphy store right on Broadway several doors away from Loewe’s Rio
Theatre, buying the plates.
Monte; That box (see Figure 4) is the box we purchased the plates in,
And what did the plates come in? How were they prepared? How were they
wrapped?
Gil; Well, they were sealed as any commercial plates are; light-proof
paper and sealed carton, which you have there. Of course, the seals are
broken .... Then the package itself that contained the plates was not
opened until the entire group had met, and then | don't remember which of
the group was present—who was there—when the metal plate holders were
loaded .... Weren't you present. Monte. when they were louded?
Gil: [think they were loaded into the plate holders in the presence of two
or three people, and then the proceedings we were going to use was then
decided upon after the plates were loaded.
From Len’s 1985 Account
Len: Three of us bought the film pack together. Eastman Kodak plates
cume in a sturdy cardboard box with a sealed wax coating all around,
waxed paper that was sealed very thoroughly, There was no way it could
have been opened without somebody knowing. | was in the darkroom, the
bathroom in Gil’s house, for the loading of all the plates, when the plates
were taken from the box and put in the plate holder under a red lamp,
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Open package only in a
photographic darkroom
Eastman
PLATES
Made in U. S. A. by
Eastman Kodak Company
ROCHESTER, N. Y.
Tiedr Marks Reg. U. 4. Pat. OF
Ronee The piatee tn thie package Bere ber nade with grret cer ara
while they « ¢ prplaces (t (owned to lee defert ye om msoutecture
oF are sold wilbeat wetrenty, gusreticr oF
Fig. 4. The original box that contained the Eastman Kodak Phites used
in our thought and psychic photography experiments,
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Monte was there when two were loaded. We couldn't fit everybody into the
john so different people were in at different loadings. Glass sheets | were
used| with emulsion on them.
Photographic Results
We gradually became so accustomed to the table motion that it no longer
interested us. Our efforts were then turned to the field of photography. |
would like to note a curious experience we had in this connection. In our first
attempt we took a photogriphic plate and placed it in a tin case [in this
position it could not be affected by any physical force]. The plate was placed
on the table with one of the sitters’ hands resting on it. The room was
absolutely dark during the whole process. und the usual contact was kept
After several moments we put the plate aside thinking that it would not be
worth developing as it was impossible for the plate to be affected. We then
went back to the table and asked the “force” to give us a message. if it had
any. by knocking after the appropriate letter in the alphabet as it was called
off by one of the sitters, In this manner the word “P-L - A - T - E” was
spelled out. We developed the plate immediately and sure enough, there was
a distinct imprint of the hand. We repeated this and obtained several other
imprints not only of hands but of any object we placed on the metal case
holding plate. (UIMman,1933)
After the first sitting, | accidentally performed an experiment which
convinced me that there was no trickery at all in the matter, While one of
the sitters had his hands on the case containing the plate, | placed my thumb
over his hand and an imprint of my thumb came out on the plate negative.
If the plates had been fixed beforehand (they certainly could not have been
handled after the sitting because |, myself developed them), this would not
have happened. (See Figure 5).
From the 1966 Reunion
Monte: It was my impression that the very first plate was the picture of
somebody's hand that had been placed on it, and | also remember putting
my thumb over it, so there was a hand and a thumb on the first picture
Does anybody want to add to that?
Gil: Did you do that for any particular reason? Was there any motivation
for that?
Monte: | don’t recall whether | was just testing or whether this was just
@ Spontaneous gesture.
Gil: Because you remember having slipped your thumb over it, and |
wondered if you had a reason for remembering il
Monte: Well, 1 don’t recall whether it was with the idea of testing out
what was being done, or... 1 think it was more that T wanted to get in on
the act
Several additional pictures of hands also came out on the plates, On
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eE—_—
Fig. 5. Monte’s thumb over a sitter’s hand was a serendipitous
discovery when he opened the sealed plate to develop it
one occasion a cluster of keys was placed on the metal container. (See
Figure 6)
Undaunted, we went on to experiments in thought photography. We
followed the same procedure but decided to project a thought onto the
unexposed plate. These were noted in my thesis (Ullman, 1933)
Thought photographs were the next step alead. Below |p. 50} 1s a list of the
objects thoaplit about and the objects received on the plate
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Fig. 6. Photography result of a cluster of keys placed on the metal
container,
Objects Thought About Objects Received
Page from u book Column from a newspaper
Bottle (Large. corkless, with label) = Corked, small jodine bottle label-less
Message The letter "C”
Picture of a girl's face Indian idol
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A brief explanation of the above experiments is necessary. In the first
one we received 4 picture of an ordinary newspaper column, and we
managed to make out some of the words, In the second one we got on the
plate an entirely different bottle from the one we thought about. It was an
iodine bottle, later found to be in the medicine chest in the bathroom. In the
fourth one we thought about a certain girl, However it seems during this
sitting one of the fellows could think of nothing else but Indians. The only
possible object suggested by the image on the plate is an Indian idol. |It
scems as though the thought of this one person determined the results on
the plates. In his absence, we could not get any action on the plates at all.
We later found, in one of the rooms, a small souvenir the exact shape of the
image On the plate. None of the sitters had been thinking of this idol: only
one of them had ever seen it before, and that was several years previous.
Later accounts provided further detail.
From the 1966 Reunion
Len: It was an attempt to produce a thought photograph. This was not
done in the dark. It was an ordinary milk bottle and this was a common
object in those days. It was placed on the table. Larry was the center of
activity here in the sense that he concentrated on the bottle, although |
daresay the rest of us did too, and a plate in a plate cover—in a plate holder
with the cover in place, was held in front of Larry's brow—just in front of
his head while he concentrated on this milk bottle. Just how long we went
through this or just how long he concentrated, I don’t know and 1 don’t
know if we had any method of deciding how long was long enough.
After developing it, one of us noticed in carefully examining the plate a
couple of things: One, that there seemed to be one side of a skull and
crossbones on it, which was very exciting. Then the excitement was
somewhat reduced when we found the end of the word “pharmacy” on this
label and a check through your [Gils] medicine cabinet produced an iodine
bottle, one of which | had at home too, because we lived in the same
neighborhood—came from the Rio Pharmacy.
Monte: You mean duplicate bottles?
Len: Yes... and we both had bottles like this with the same poison mark
on it. It was not the milk bottle staring at them [us]. [t was a picture of an
iodine bottle (see Figure 7),
Len’s Comments in 1985
Len: Then they [we] got involved in thought photography, the possibility
of projecting a thought onto film, The results are interesting but confusing.
Bottle: In those days milk came in bottles, We took an ordinary empty milk
bottle from Gil’s kitchen and put it on the nightstand, and held the
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Fig. 7. Thought photography result of an iodine bottle instead of the
milk bottle projected.
photographic plate. unexposed and closed, against Larry's brow, He was
going to project—we were going to help him—the image of the milk bottle.
What came out was an iodine bottle. In the originals you could even see
the skull and crossbones on the corner of the label, Its shape was unique,
On the original you could barely read the name of the pharmacy,
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There was one in Gil’s medicine cabinet and one in our [my] medicine
cabinet, exactly the same. It's also not a good shadow-graph in that it's
distorted, geometrically, as though it was heated and pulled a little out of
shape. You could get a picture like that if you had a plate that wasn’t held
flat. You could get that kind of distortion by curving the surface of the thing
it was against, except that in this case it was a flat plate, We all wanted that
bottle [to come out}
Monte: The fifth one looked like a column of print, and [it was] very
difficult to make out. What was the thinking there?
George: It was an attempt to produce a page of a book.
Len: That | remember. [t was done under similar conditions to three or
four,’ and I can’t be sure whether you were looking at an open book at the
time or not. Or just trying to visualize a page of a book. We seemed to have
been satistied at the time, after it was printed, that this was a section of a
piece of newspaper because of the columnar structure of the printing and
because we were able to read some of it. We were able to read some of it
then,
Monte: Not on the photo.
Len: Maybe it was on the original plate,
Monte: Did everybody else seem satisfied that we identified this as a
newspuper thing?
Gil: Yes, because that's the way 1 remember 1.
Len: But again, it was done under thought conditions with the object that
we actually got not being in the immediate vicinity at all, Again, with an
unexposed plate, no camera...
Monte: Was it dark?
Git: 1 don’t know whether it was dark or not, but 1 do know that
the... that we didn’t expose the plate.
Monte: Now, the next object is a picture of an Indian idol...
Len: [interrupting] The disturbing thing about this is that in cach case the
actual object apparently existed. . .
Monte: Yes, and this is marked on the back; “Without camera.” Does
anybody want to tell us how this came about?
Len: This was taken, | think, directly after the “bottle photograph.” It
was another attempt at thought projection and getting such an impression
on a photographie plate. This time Larry held the plate to his head and
concentrated on somebody who none of us knew, This was a young
woman—Olympia—who was an acquaintance of Larry's of considerable
importance at the moment, and he was concentrating on what Olympia
looked like: none of us had any idea of what she looked like, and we were
hoping that we would get a projection of her image. The development of
the plate proved to be a little amulet or Aztec image. The orginal was
“The number ceter tothe onder in whieh the pictures were considered by Len at the time
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found to exist in Ellie’s'® possession. She had gotten it once while in
Arizona or something.
Monte: Had you ever seen that amulet?
Gil: Not that | was conscious of,
Len: As an interesting side point, | don't think incidentally, that any of
us had ever seen that amulet except Gil—[of those present in the room].
Monte: You had seen it before?
Gil: | don’t know. | suppose | had since Ellie had it, | don’t think | had
any reason to associate it.
Larry: | don’t think | had any conscious recollection of it.
Len; No, | don’t think you had any reason to associate it with his girl
friend,
Len; We're just assuming that. We didn’t find the amulet immediately.
No, we didn’t. It was behind the bookcase. I think the existence of the
amulet was revealed after Ellie saw the pictures and she recognized it, and
then when it was produced, then you remembered having seen it,
Monte: Was Ellie there at the time, do you know?
Len: No. | can't think of even a remote chain of linkage. | mean
paranormally, that would produce the amulet.
Larry: No, We tried very hard at the time, and the people were suggest-
ing that perhaps somebody was thinking “Indian.” Or, did anyone think
Indian when the name Olympia was suggested because it did look like an
Indian or an Egyptian figure to us initially, We didn’t know what it was or
what to make of it.
Additional Commentary by Len in 1985
Len: This was an attempt to project a picture of something only Larry
knew. He was seeing a girl named Olympia and none of us had met her.
Larry was going to project her picture. What they got was the amulet. A
silver Aztec amulet Gil’s “half-sister” [aunt] had brought it home from the
far West, Silver, beaten flat, etc. truncated hands and feet and slot for
ribbon. No one knew where it was. Gil recognized it. The following week
we asked [Ellic] but she couldn't find it. In spring cleaning it was found
behind a bookcase in her room [in Gil’s apartment}. It could have been
anywhere. The force we're dealing with could have moved it anywhere.
EvaLuative CoMMENTS—Psycuic PHoToGRAPHY
There was something strange about the images that resulted. We spoke
of them as shadow-graphs. They resembled X-rays more than true photo-
graphs, In my thesis | note:
“Ellie, although Gil's aunt, was a contemporary in age and was referred to by Gil as his
half-sister
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There was one peculiar thing about all these plates; the negatives were
actually positives. That is, the objects on the negatives were light when
normally [ie., in a normal photo] they should have been dark. It appears as
though the plates were affected around the object. On printing the plates we
naturally found the positives to be dark, when normally they should have
been light. This fact in itself is a strong argument against fraudulent manip-
ulations, as it would be a difficult task for even a skillful photographer to
produce results such as ours. (UIiman, 1933)
From the 1966 Reunion
Gil: There was no preconceived idea of what we were going to do, so
whatever occurred was spontaneous after the plates were loaded so—I
mean, one of us would say, “Let's put keys on the plates,” and that would
come up on that particular plate, Now, from a technical point of view, the
only way this could have occurred normally would have been for the plate
itself to be uncovered and the object placed over the plate and then for the
light to strike the plate, you see, and then you would have that shadow-
graph that you have there. That would be the only normal procedure to get
that, but these plates were definitely sealed in the holders and if the holders
were faulty you would have had a leakage around the edge: you would
have a flare, so apparently the plate was thoroughly protected from any
normal radiation and whatever radiation did hit the plates was of an
abnormal [i.e., unknown] nature. But then again, talking about trickery,
from an objective point of view, it would have been impossible in this case
because there was no predetermined method of procedure to arrive at these
particular results. That's about all | can contribute. | would say they were
developed in the presence of the same people who saw the loading.
Len; Well, the point | think is of importance possibly from an objective
scientific point of view is that the things we did with these plates were not
prearranged. In other words. we did not say we are going to do this, and
this, and this, prior to loading the plates. What we did was spontaneous and
pretty arbitrary as fur as anybody getting an idea what to do, so there could
have been no prearrangements with the plates as such, At least this is my
opinion of it, and this is one of the things that convinced me of the
genuineness, again, being very objective about the phenomenon at this
point, from a purely scientific point of view. The plates could not have been
preprepared—let's put it that way, and in developing them—1 believe
Monte made some mention of putting his thumb over somebody else's and
again, this was an entirely spontaneous gesture, and that recorded on the
plate. Now they were developed. As you say, shadow-graphed, and |
suppose they were actually because there was a radiation or whatever it
was. Now the only way this could have occurred normally would have been
to have a leaky plate holder and actual light in the room which would then
have given you a nominal shadow-graph, In other words, you could have
duplicated these normally by not having it in the same plate holder. Right?
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Even a phony plate holder would not do it. So, in the absence of a plate
holder, you would have duplicated this, but otherwise I would say they
were genuine. And then we developed them in your presence, | believe.
Monte, were you there?
Monte: | was there. | remember we all crowded in that bathroom, and the
thing came up as we said.
Len: | can only add that that’s so, and that if these had somehow been
tampered-with plates, | would have had to have been in on the tampering,
and | wasn’t.
Monte: Any indication that they could have been produced by tamper-
ing?
Gil; You could duplicate these plates.
Monte: What would you have had to do?
Gil; Well, we would have had to preprepare them, In other words, we
would have decided: now, we're going to use a hand, and then that plate
would have to have been exposed and the light would have formed a
shadow-graph as you have it here, then that plate would have to be put back
in the plate-holder, I mean, in the plate box, in the right order and each step
would have required very claborate preparation.
Len: The point that I'm thinking about regarding the validity of this
particular thing is that our plans were entirely spontaneous, In other words,
no one had predetermined what we were going to do with these particular
plates and you say we fairly arbitrarily just put keys on them or hands or
other things which were not prearranged. The question is how much control
we really had in terms of eliminating other variables. Now for me, then and
now, as far as photography is concerned, I'm naive. You may be delighted
with that camera'” he brought in but to me it’s just a camera, [ have an idea
what he can put into a camera, but | have no real feeling for it. To me, |
saw the photographic studies, what we did from the point of view of my
part in it, as completely controlled. | was there when the plates were
purchased; | was there when the stupid wax seal outside came off when we
opened them. | was there when the plates were loaded. | was also there
when they were developed. | was like his other hand all during this whole
thing, so that this seemed to me to be about as controlled and as fool-proof
a thing as could be, for me, at least,
State of the Plates
The plates and original photographs came into my possession in 1946,
when I recorded the following:
In 1946, when the members of the group were again in contact with each
other. it was discovered that Len had in his possession a great many of the
original plates (negatives) and several of the original prints, They were kept
“Here Len refers to the experiments described earlier on pp, 46-50
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in the box in which they had originally been purchased and this bore an
Eastman Kodak label stating that the plates were 9 by 13 cm., using emulsion
number A062. There were 16 plates.
All of the plates have undergone considerable deterioration, Five are
sufficiently well preserved so that the object on the plate is identifiable.
This includes three plates of hands, one of the keys, one of the iodine
bottle. On the rest of the plates the emulsion is completely gone.
In 1971 | sought advice from Eastman Kodak with regard to preventing
further deterioration. | received a three-page single-spaced letter. It pro-
vides an extraordinarily detailed analysis and a highly technical set of
procedures. The last paragraph is worth noting as that was the only course
I could follow. Kodak's instructions concluded:
It is recognized that you may elect to provide a lesser degree of protection
than recommended because of the limited value of the plate in terms of its
end use. cost of providing storage facilities, ete. Simply storing the plates at
the recommended temperature and humidity conditions and in a container
made of inert materials will add immeasurably to their storage for long
periods.
As a matter of historical interest, | note in my thesis:
These plates and prints were shown to several members of the American
Society for Psychical Research”? and it was learned that various other
experiments had produced like results, but that ours were outstandingly
successful: so successful, in fact, that we received invitations to hold séances
at the homes of the different officers of the Society. (Ullman, 1933)
This brings us up to September 2, 1933 when an entirely new series of
phenomena came on the scene, which will be considered next.
Part II: The Period of My Participation
in the Group—Bindelof Days
Our Excounrer wrrt Dr. Binpetor (1933-1934)
In September of 1933 the most exciting phase of our pursuit of psychic
phenomena began. Our weekly sessions from then until the end of the year
resulted in happenings that far exceeded not only our expectations but went
beyond anything we had read about, By the end of the summer we were
veteran sitters, confident about our ability to evoke such unexplainable
effects as rapid movements of the table about the room to the point where
it was hard for us to keep up with it, levitation, and success with psychic
photography. We were ready for something different, We wanted desper-
ately to pin down the nature of this seemingly intelligent force we had
encountered. | think we all wanted to assume it was the work of some
Hiystop House: 24nd St. and Lexington Ave, New York City
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discarnate entity and that we were on the path toward satisfying our
curiosity about survival.
We certainly were more organized, both with regard to the regularity of
our sittings and the commitment of the core group to full attendance. When
lapses in attendance did occur they were generally for good reasons. Gil’s
bedroom remained our meeting place for the most part. It was small, set
apart from the other rooms, and the one that could be darkened almost
completely. Whatever dim light might escape from the edges of the
window shade that covered the only window was not enough to disrupt the
sense of total darkness, [Some degree of dark adaptation of course did
occur—sometimes to the point where sitter outlines could be discerned. |
Our procedure was to continue as we had been, namely, to sit around the
small table with our hands in contact with each other and held lightly on the
table. We were far enough away from the living room so that no noise
reached us, We sat for varying lengths of time, generally no longer than 15
or 20 minutes with breaks of the same duration. During these breaks we
congregated in the living room, discussing what had happened during the
sitting, engaging in hijinx, and listening to records. It was actually my
introduction to classical music; Rimsky-Korsakoff's Scheherazade and
Honnegar’s Pacific 23/1 were our favorites. On occasion, Gil's mother and
his stepfather Eddie would be with us during the breaks. Eddie was a
talented pianist who enjoyed playing for us, These breaks were a much
necded relief from the tension and excitement generated by the sittings.
The state we were in at the time can best be described as a strange mix of
both awe and a deep conviction that the phenomena unfolding before us
were genuine. | think | can speak for all concerned when | say that these
experiences set us apart from the everyday world of ordinary reality,
making us feel very special. We were witnesses to “other-worldly” events
brought about through our collective effort. Our excitement about what was
happening overflowed to friends, including girl friends, resulting in not
infrequent guest participants.
By the time these sitlings started, the “force” had begun to announce
itself soon after the lights were turned off by a rapid series of knocks on the
table that gradually increased in intensity, ending with one shockingly loud
final knock. Sometimes the staccato raps occurred spontaneously; some-
times it was in answer to our inquiry as to whether the “force” was present,
In an effort to move beyond the results we had already obtained we hit on
the idea of asking for written messages, Earlier we had attempted to
communicate on occasion by spelling out the letters of the alphabet and
hearing a knock after the designated letter. This method was cumbersome,
time consuming, and the yield, although it occasionally made sense, was
never very impressive.
Our collective recall is not very clear as to how we got started once we
decided to try for written messages. We ended up placing sheets of yellow
foolscap and a pencil on the lower shelf of the night table. Len, whose
talent as a natural leader was recognized by all, was designated as the
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spokesperson. The messages initially were in response to questions ad-
dressed to the “force.” Later on, when the “force” identified itself as a
distinct entity, it sometimes had un agenda of its own.
Len and |, who had been friends prior to the sittings, resumed and
deepened our friendship in 1946 when the core group came together for a
not very successful attempt at having a sitting, In our many meetings our
talk often went back to our earlier days. His recall of the sittings was far
sharper than mine. Unfortunately, | kept no written notes of these sessions.
His death in 1988 was a big blow to my hopes for his active collaboration
with my desire to reconstruct the experience. There is much of Len’s
influence behind the present account. His stepdaughter, Judith Malamud;
his daughter. Helen Lauer; and his wife, Rachel Lauer have been most
helpful.
I have sought the input of Gil. Larry, and Howard, the only other
surviving members of the core group. in the preparation of this account.
[Having assumed the responsibility for writing the initial draft, | am very
much aware that it tended to reflect my own perspective.| | am very aware
of all that is missing. There are inevitable gaps and uncertainties in recall
across a span of over 70 years. The transcripts of the reunions, begun
almost 40 years ago, make up for this in part, though questions still occur
that remain unanswerable.
Sources Usep is Commune Tats Section
My own limited recall of the events to follow will be supplemented by
the following sources:
I. The messages themselves. These were entrusted to me several years
after the sittings ended. The paper, being ordinary foolscap, eventually
begun to show signs of wear, Sometime in the 1960s I had the “significant”
messages, those written at some length, laminated, There were a number of
bricf messages that have remained as they were,
2. Additional “psychic” photographs taken in December 1933.
3, Documents prepared at the time of the sittings, including agendas,
minutes, and letters of those who participated in the “healing” experiments,
4. An account written in 1934 by Larry.
5. An account written in 1946 by myself.
6. An account written by Howard in 1966, including a chart noting dates
of the sessions, attendance, and the various effects noted at each,
7. A taped interview with Helen Pinco [Mrs, Lauer, Len’s mother] in 1971.
8. A taped interview with Tom in 1972.
9. A taped account by Gil, Len, and myself on a visit to the Maimonides
Medical Center in 1973,
10. A taped account by Jeff in 1976.
Hl. A taped interview with Jeff in 1985.
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12. A taped interview with Ellie in 1989.
13. Taped interviews with Gil in the spring of 1993 and in December
1993,
14. Taped reminiscences of reunions of the core group held in 1966, 1969,
and 1971.
15. Informal meetings with Len.
Active Puase (Serremper-Decemper 1933)
The first coherent written message occurred on September 2, 1933.
There are a few references in the various accounts as to what happened
prior to that date when we tried to obtain writing. At the early trials we
could hear the pencil being picked up and put down repetitively with no
actual writing, Later, scribbling appeared and then a few printed words [no
longer recalled]. From September 2nd on, lengthy printed messages inter-
spersed with occasional short ones were obtained. The general procedure
was for Len initially and then later on for Larry to act as spokesman and
to ask the “force” to manifest itself, Within a minute or less the very
sharp staccato rap was heard, While there was no record most of the
time of the questions asked, their nature can be surmised from the
content of the message, The writing was very rapid, sometimes incred-
ibly out of proportion to the length of the message. [We were to learn
later why this was so.] The pencil was then slammed down, indicating
the writing had come to an end. At the same time we could hear the
paper being crumpled, The lights were turned on immediately and the
message read.
In what follows, the dates of the sequence of sittings are noted along
with the messages and any other available data. Sometime in the autumn,
concomitant with the written messages, we went back to further experi-
ments in photography as well as efforts at materialization. We became a bit
more organized, began to keep minutes (sporadically), and drew up agen-
das. This, in turn, led to the decision to refer to ourselves as The Bindelof
Society, named after the presumptively discamate entity that befriended us,
We had calling cards printed (see Figure |), elected officers, and collected
dues, | was secretary up to the time [left the group, and I believe Len was
treasurer,
The messuges were written in a legible but somewhat sprawling printed
style. Figure 8 is one of the more clearly written messages (sitting of Oct.
7, 1933). All of the messages of any length will be reproduced, There were
from time to time shorter messages of a word or two. These will be noted
as well as any other material extant from the sittings, such as records of
temperature and humidity, agendas, minutes.
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September 2, 1933
Imagine the scene. Probably eight of us by that time, in the small room
that was Gil’s bedroom, the room as dark as we could make it, our hands
in contact and resting lightly on a table less than two feet square, the pencil
and paper in place on the lower shelf, Len addresses the “force and the
staccato promptly occurs in response. At the first sitting of the evening. the
questions pertained to the nature of the “force” and how the earlier
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photographs had been obtained, We had apparently also included a ques-
tion about materialization, Both sides of the paper were written on.
Message #1, September 2, 1933
The force is generated by the combined efforts of the sitters operating in
unison. The production of this force by the sitters sets into action the
otherwise dormant energy present in the surrounding atmosphere. The
force has the ability to penetrate only one solid object of a series. As in the
plate, it penetrated only the part of the plate uncovered. However, if the
object such as the keys had been welded into one solid piece (combined
with the plate cover) the force would have penetrated the entire plate,
rendering it entirely exposed. After penetrating one object and encounter-
ing another surface of air, it is incapable of penetrating the following
object. The force can be projected from one of the sites in the shadow form
of an object (the clarity depending on the ability of the sitter), It is not a
constant penetration during the plate but an accumulation of force with
instant penetration at a maximum point. Materialization and contact you
are incapable of understanding.
Comment: The next time we sat that evening a second message was
obtained. Note the directions to us to turn the page.
Message #2, September 2, 1933
As I said before, materialization you are incapable of understanding. (It
involves the manipulation of dimensions you cannot conceive.) Please
believe me when I say this.
1 shall by demonstration make it perhaps a bit comprehensive.
Please turn.
Outline
1, Sitters concentrate mildly on contact. (Leonard will verbally order
intensity of concentration.)
2. One of the sitters upon feeling contact will announce it.
3. Spokesman will tell sitter what to concentrate on (such as increased
pressure, movement, pulling of hair). Notice how degree of concentration
affects contact. This is the only similarity your minds can conceive.
The rest of you will understand when you are part of us.
Comment: \t is not clear from the record whether or not we attempted
materialization that night. There is no record of any meetings on the 9th or
16th of September.
In Message #3 we continued to ask about materialization. This message
also contains the first reference to curative powers.
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Message #3, September 23, 1933
Continue tonight with the same seating order. The suggestion made by
one of the sitters to surface an object with luminous paint is a splendid
method for me to manifest my shape. By blocking out radiance you may
observe my form in shadow, Before continuing let me make clear a few
points. | told you before that 1 am a part of a common force. You seemed
to assume that | am no identity in particular, You are wrong. In the lower
forms of phenomena such as table movements, no one identity exists, but
merely an exertion of force brought into play by the sitters. In the higher
manifestations such as you are obtaining, the force molds itself into an
identity with definite intelligence.
* Definite identity in form, intelligence.
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*Knocks. Higher intelligence with a semblance of an identity.
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*Average séance reaches this point.
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*Weak movements. Common force.
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*No manifestations.
The subconscious attitude of the sitters means almost everything to the
success of the sitting. Time element does not enter into my existence. It is
possible for me to be in three different places at the same time as easily as
one. (For instance, holding Leonard's vest, pulling Leo's hair, pulling
Gilbert's hair, and brushing across Horace’s face and Tom's hand at the
same time.) As to my curative powers .. . let me explain it. By this method.
The sitters concentrate on the desired cure, This sets into play a force
generated with that basis of thought. The impression is transmitted and
impregnated in the subconscious of the patient where it proceeds to work
similarly to a radium bead imbedded in the center of a tumor, even though
consciously the patient objects to the method.
Comment: The date the materialization effects referred to is uncertain,
It might have been on September 2nd following Message #2 or on Sep-
tember 23 as implied in Message #3. Whenever it occurred, this is my
recollection of how it came about. Len asked if we could be touched by the
“force.” When the response was positive, probably in the staccato announc-
ing the readiness of the “force” to begin, there was some preliminary
discussion as to who should be first. There was a prevailing sense of relief
when Len volunteered. He rolled up the sleeve of one arm, then sat for a
few moments in the dark before announcing that he felt several fingers
stroking his forearm. We then asked that each of us be touched in turn. I
recall that several of us in turn, including myself, were touched in the same
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way but when it came to Gil’s turn, he said that he was going to grab it
when it came to him, No sooner were the words out of his mouth when we
heard a loud slap, a surprised ejaculation from Gil, and frightened re-
sponses from all of us, We couldn't get the lights turned on fast enough. Gil
seemed dazed. He had received a hard slap across the face. We were all
shaken by what had happened. At one of the subsequent sittings [October
7th] we were informed that Gil was about to grab a dangerous “elemental”
[destructive entities without any specific identity] and that Dr. Bindelof [of
whose name we were later informed] had to intervene to prevent this from
happening. When these events were recalled years later [Len, 1976], Len
also described shaking hands with what felt like fingers that were both
small and soft, as if it were a child's hand. The simultaneous touching as
described in the message also occurred.
From the content of the message | infer we had also been inquiring about
the healing power of the force. In terms of sheer excitement this session
stood out for all of us.
September 30, 1933
The first message was brief: Tonight you shall have astounding phe-
nomena, To obtain materialization you must build the contact force to a
certain pitch to achieve materialization.
Continue.
Comment: There is no record of any materialization that night. It is
possible, however, that whut was described as occurring on the 23rd may
have actually happened at this point.
Message #4, September 30, 1933
Thank you. A seemingly small thing like the mental alertness of the
sitters also plays no small part. | explained before that I was and am still
an entity that is entirely individual. 1 can govern the power of animation by
your combined efforts. Do not question that point again.
My curative powers are extensive because 1, unlike you, have the power
to use to my pleasure, this force that so mystifies you. Any muscular disease
with my aid, you can remedy. Replacement of limbs and the like, is of
course, bevond even my scope. Cancer, a disease of uncontrollable cellular
growth, may be rapidly cured by using the tremendous disintegrating
power of the force (the retina muscles can easily be reshaped by the force),
[OF interest to Tom.| To affect such cures, the patient is the subject of
concentration. Presently the patient will feel a pressure at the diseased
part. The pressure will increase tremendously, then diminish. One appli-
cation should suffice. Nothing should be prepared for the force, not even
the removal of glasses,
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PROCEED
Comment: Message #4 conveys our unknown friend's emphasis on still
being an individual entity, Reading it at the time, I think we felt chided a
bit as our questioning may have been too persistent. In the elaboration of
the curative powers an incorrect reference was made to “retina muscles.”
Len picked this up. He was the only one who knew at the time that there
were no retinal muscles,
October 7, 1933
Two lengthy messages were received. Again, judging from the content,
the first came in response to our questions about the nature of postmortem
existence. It is also obvious in his reference to healing that some efforts at
healing had already begun. Tom, a regular member of the group, and
Willie, a friend of mine who came for a while, wore glasses and needed
strong corrective lenses, We were told they would be suitable subjects for
improving their vision, After the sessions began, they each in turn reported
feeling fingers gently massaging their eyes. | have a memory of Tom
saying the fingers felt as if they were behind the eyeball, To the best of our
recollections, there may have been a transitory subjective sense of im-
provement, In any case they both continued to need glasses. This message,
in addition to stressing the curative powers now at our disposal, also gave
an explanation of why Gilbert's face was slapped,
Message #5, October 7, 1933
|. Before you proceed, let me attempt to make clear to you a few points
about which you are still doubtful. 1 say attempt because the fundamentals
of our existence are so contrary that it is impossible for me to explain them
to you in terms which are elementary to me. Your existence is physical and
as long as it is such you will not be able to conceive of my life. When you
question my existence and expect an explanation, you irritate me because
you question a thing you cannot possibly comprehend. You lads are correct
in the belief that you have brought into play a highly intelligent force.
Undoubtedly the question comes to your minds as to why no other circle
has ever secured such an intelligent force. Let me explain it this way. There
are countless thousands of identities surrounding the earth practically all
of which are malicious and destructive in their nature. Some are powerful
enough to detach themselves from the common force and return to the
earth and manifest themselves by physical destruction. lt may astound you
to know that many unexplained accidents such as the derailing of trains
from fouled switches has been caused by groups of elementals which
combine into one powerfully destructive force and operate in unison.
Fortunately this occurs very seldom.
An average sitting creates conditions which make it momentarily pos-
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sible for these identities to detach and weakly manifest themselves. But with
the dissolution and breaking up of the concentration necessary they be-
come powerless. To bring an intelligent force into play it requires a certain
combination of sitters who by their combined thought repel the common
identities and make possible the passage to earth of an intelligent identity.
Each time you sit it becomes simpler for me to penetrate to you, You have,
previously to this, always associated with this force nothing but destruc-
tion, but believe me when | say you have befriended a person who is truly
constructive. You are headed towards amazing revelations which you nor
anyone else ever dreamed possible, Do nat falter because of petty dishe-
liefs. Trust in my curative powers and cultivate them and you shail be a
thousand fold rewarded. | said before that one application should suffice.
This will be true when you have mastered the ability to concentrate
harmoniously, Until then you will be able to use only a fraction of the
force. (You see how powerless Lam without vou and how powerful you
are with me). But rest assured the curative powers of this force are
boundless,
2. Read after other sheet. | unaided am powerless to aid your people but
through you | can work wonders. The adjustment of Tom's and Willie's
eves in the allotted time are but a triviality compared to what we will be
able to do together. Believe in me is all 1 ask. Two weeks ago 1 slapped
Gilbert's face for good reason. There were several contesting forces
present that night. 1 would not have objected to Gilbert grabbing my hand,
realizing it was a gesture of curiosity, but the form he intended to grab was
not mine but that of a destructive elemental at the time dominating in the
room, The action wrought havoe on all sitters. Fortunately, the elementals
are incapable of understanding any remarks or thoughts, At tonight's
sitting, there must be no people present who were not present at last week's
sitting. The identical seating order is to be used for the curing.
In answer to Larry’s question; / cannot operate at any appreciable
distance because of the dissipation of the operating force you create. 1 am
limited to the scope of that force. As 1 depart from it, 1 gradually become
part of the common force and lose my distinct physical identity, For
instance, 1 am present in this room long before the sitting begins, | can
observe your actions, but until you generate the force that gives me the
power of physical animation, | cannot make my presence realized. \n
answer to Leonard's question: An ignorant force can manifest itself in
light but it ts absolutely detrimental to the operation of an intelligent
identity.
Comment: The second message refers to inexplicable events that oc-
curred in Larry's life around this time outside of the sittings. On several
occasions watch crystals cracked for no obvious reason. This was also the
first time the identity of the “force” was revealed, We were moved by the
idealism that seemingly endured after death and his reference to the
“boundless healing powers” that were to be revealed to us. If we hadn't
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considered ourselves a very special group before we certainly did from that
point on.
Message #6, October 7, 1933
A flight automatically lowers the concentrating powers of the sitters. In
answer to Gilbert's question: The heart muscles may easily be strength-
ened, Hope your mother will trust in me later. 1 hope never to give you
cause for disbelief or distrust. Madam—as to fright, how can you say you
fear me? | want to warn Larry that a powerfully destructive elemental is
attaching itself to him and weakly manifesting itself by destreying his
watch crystals, removing articles from bags he places them in, and seals
and the like. To ward off this influence | prefer Larry to assume control of
this intelligent force.
3. Before proceeding to further adjust the eyes of our two patients let me
outline what 1 want them to do for the following week. Willie is to continue
wearing his glasses until the next treatment when I shall prescribe further.
There will not vet be an improvement. Tom, who will notice decisive effects
the next morning, is to go without his glasses as long as the improvement
remains, When his eves begin to weaken, as they will, he must immediately
return to his glasses, But le must not wear them until le feels actual
discomfort in reading or the like. The question has been raised as to why
I should want to do this, 1 shall explain, and in explaining shall indirectly
answer many more of your questions. During my plrysical life 1 was a
doctor. | loved my werk as a mother adores its child. 1 dreamt of nothing
day and night but curing the ills of humanity. 1 achieved little fame during
my life and my hopes went unrealized. | soon after transcended into this
unphysical existence, and oddly enough, still possessed the insatiable
desire to aid you humans, Now | have at my perfect control this tremendous
force with its boundless healing powers. It is humorous indeed to observe
vour doctors fumbling in their clumsy attempts fo cure with their shiny,
pretty steel knives and the like, when right before their very noses is a cure
that will soon rock the world. May the honors go to you for discovering and
developing it. Despite slight variations your circle creates a mental com-
bination that is perfect for my penetration to the physical earth, while |sic|
! have the power only when you give me the ability to manifest myself
physically. As your concentration becomes more perfect so will the full
power of the force become available to you, Believe me when I say you
have befriended a truly constructive person who has the interest of Ine-
manity at heart, My name is Dr. Bindelof. For convenience you may call
me that in the future. You have a panacea, Let us perfect it and give it to
the world. Your results will leave no room for dispute. Will you be the
disciples of a dead man? Now proceed but rest frequently to retain your
mental strength.
4. You are new to proceed with the instructions | have given you.
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October 14, 1933
From the time of the inception of the written messages, the circle of
sitters had begun to grow and with that some irregularities in atten-
dance. In the message to follow, we are berated for this. Dr. Bindelof
had emphasized that his ability to contact us was contingent on the
collective efforts of all of us and that any irregularity in attendance
made for difficulties, The reference to causing any inconvenience was
the result of my informing the group of difficulties | was having with
my parents who didn’t share my enthusiasm for, and commitment to,
the séances.
As a consequence of Dr. Bindelof’s earlier suggestion, Larry replaced
Len as the spokesperson,
Message #7, October 14, 1933
To continue the sceances |sic| in this manner is hopeless. 1 was to {sic}
hasty in my conclusions. The harmony which existed at the previous sittings
has completely dissappeared |sic| and the inconsistancy [sic] of the sitters
only adds to the confusion. Georges |sic| absence from the last sitting made
the available curing force very slight. Willies |sic| disbelief adds to the
difficulty, Leos |sic| and Montes |sic| absence make matters worse. The
edition |addition, sic] is of no help in replacing the other sitters. If you wish
tonight 1 will give you physical manifestations for the benifit |sic| of the
new people. But my desire—curing—has been rendered impossible, 1
regret causing Monte any inconvenience. Larrys |sic| continued control of
the sittings will soon discourage the elemental. Perhaps at some future date
we may continue with our original experiment the curing. 1 bex of you boys
never to do what you did in that tomb again. Believe met had difficulty in
aiding you then.
Comment: The reference to the tomb involved an effort on the part of
Gil, Len, Howard, and George (1 was not a part of it, probably because by
that time my family had moved away from Washington Heights where all
the others lived) to hold a séance in a cemetery. As reconstructed by
Howard in his written 1966 account: “We went to the nearby cemetery at
155th Street and Riverside Drive and stole into one of the open vaults. We
tried to hold hands around. and suddenly some pebbles or stones were
violently thrown against the side of the vault.” At the reunion in 1966,
Howard added: “My recollection is that those stones were thrown with
terrific force and it was a frightening thing.” The sitting and the visit to the
cemetery ended abruptly at that point.
Note the spelling errors in Message #7. Errors in spelling and grammar
were not infrequent.
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October 28, 1933
There is a folder marked October 28th containing a miscellany of brief
messages, some printed, some in script, but with no indications as to
whether they did indeed occur on that date, The references of many of these
messages remain unclear. One, for example, appeared in mirror-writing
script: “A tree is bent.” Many had to do with who should remain out and
who should be included in the various sittings that evening. What follows
is 4 Summary of that session, prepared at the time but never completed.
Summary of Session, October 28, 1933
We were answered by a Dr. Rinchner, a friend of the doctor, who wrote
that he was “weak.” However, after continued sitting, we were reached by
Dr. Bindelof. We asked, among other things, why we had such poor results
in the previous sitting. It answered [by spelling] Monty. Later, we pursued
this line of questioning by asking if it would be all right for Monty [vic] to
sit without his parents’ consent. “No,” was the answer, He understood
Monty's [sic] problem, he said, but he could not foresee if his parents
would ever consent, and if Lenny would have any effects on them, He
agreed that it was greatly to Monty's [sic] benifit [sic] to sit, and that it
would be all right. from a cosmic point of view, if he sat without his
parents’ knowledge |apparently contradicting his earlier statement —
M. U.]. Also, he said that we could, if Monty [sic] could not possibly
attend, experiment with other persons to ascertain if they could contribute
to the circle.
Scattered answers: To Tom: /f you wish to be free from your morbid
thoughts do not be so introspective. Furthermore, the doctor assured Tom
that he would “ge re camp” the following year, a problem the consequences
of which were bothering Tom very much. Later, when Tom wished to
know if the doctor would point out any sitter who would “have a happy
life” {Tom later explained that the word “success” was in his mind], Dr.
Bindelof patted his head and explained to Lenny that it was a paternal
gesture.
Lenny; Does that part of the soul which lives after death “go out” ina
séance to contact with a dead spirit?
Dr. B: Yes?!
Lenny: Do any of us have that power?
Dr. B: Yes, (He then knocked at the mention of Larry's name to say that
he was the person who could do that. This was the explanation for the
attuchment of an clemental to Larry. The fact that séances were held
“Presumably this and subsequent answers were obtained by knocks in response to calling
out lettues of the alphabet,
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without Larry was not important. Once before, he wrote that mediums were
not essential but important to sittings, |
Willie: Can | improve my memory?
Dr. B: Yes, by associations.
Howard: You say that only people who during life have sat at séances
will have a life after death with intelligent manifestations. What then of
people who know nothing of spiritualism. What becomes of them?
Dr. B: They become elementals.
Howard: |s their life happy?
Dr. B: [No definite answer, Wrote out: You think of your parents.|
Larry: \s |sic| my morbid thoughts . . .
November 4, 1933
The following message was obtained.
Message #8, November 4, 1933
I do wish you lads would come to some decision as to the place you
intend to hold the sittings. It is difficult for me to become accustomed to
different surroundings every week, Larry is completely rid of his elemental
and has little cause for future worry in that respect. | want Tom to stop
leading such a morbid existence. Tom, you are becoming irrational and
foolish. If your heart calls for the open fields and tree-lined roads, then
take to them. Your nature revolts against conventional and sophisticated
things. Live as your heart tells you.
You have never gotten any results with the luminous paper because the
radiations were always too intense. Soften them so that they are barely
visible.
If you construct the proper device | can speak with you.
Monte, please do not argue with your family. Rather give this up.
Now, you are to rest, We will proceed with the curing. Rest after this and
then we will have further messages and phenomena.
Comment: Several points in Message #8 require further explanation.
Concerning the location of the sittings, we had occasionally shifted the
location to Len’s home or Tom's.
Dr. Bindelof seemed to have taken a special interest in Tom and here
responds to some of the issues troubling Tom.
We had tried unsuccessfully using phosphorescent paper in the hope of
seeing evidence of materialization.
The reference to me again had to do with my concern with my parents”
opposition to my attending the séances. At some point in the summer | had
asked whether I should continue to come or give up coming. My recollec-
tion ts that I did not ask this question aloud but simply thought it. The word
“neither” then appeared on the paper. Not being satisfied with this re-
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sponse, I again silently thought: What should | do that might convince my
parents to change their attitude? The next written message read: “A note
from Overstreet”
Comment: Professor Harry Overstreet was chair of the Department of
Philosophy and Psychology at City College at the time. In August of 1933,
I had taken a course in philosophy and somehow had gotten enough
courage to write to him and tell him about the results we had been having
with the table and photographs. This was his reply:
September 19, 1933
Mr. Montague Ullman
525 West End Avenue
New York City
My dear Mr. Ullman:
I have only just returned from California and find your letter of August 17
upon my desk. Please forgive the apparent discourtesy of my long delay in
replying to it,
1 am afraid that | cannot give you any really serviceable advice. These
matters are all so mysterious that one simply has to go ahead and experiment
as best he can, Some time after the beginning of the term, if you will be good
enough to drop into my office on an afternoon, | shall be most happy to talk
the whole matter over with you.
Sincerely,
H. A. Overstreet
HAO;je
After receiving the letter | went to see him and was surprised to learn
that he had a serious interest in psychical research.
There were a number of brief messages that | believed occurred at some
point in this session indicating Dr. Bindelof was having difficulty reaching
us because of interfering entities. These messages were seemingly scrib-
bled with difficulty:
“Help.”
“Help me please.”
"Goodbye Bindelof.”
“You shall never again get Bindelof”
“Its |sic| terribly hard.”
“Fooles” |sic|.
“That other man is present.”
“Help me please Bindelof.”
“Thank God you boys did not leave me Bindelof”
“We've won!”
Comment: Subsequent to this session the resistance | had encountered
from my parents lessened either in the face of my determination to continue
or because of Dr. Overstreet’s interest or both.
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November 11, 1933
In Message #9 (see Fig. 8 for written version), Dr. Bindelof refers to the
difficulties encountered the week before. He also drew a diagram of the
‘apparatus we were to build for his yoice to come through to us, There is no
record of what curative efforts went on that night.
Message #9, November 11, 1933
! cannot thank you enough for the way you aided me last week. Let me
warn you that should that chap return again and frustrate my attempts to
secure contact with you, do not dissolve the sitting until you have enabled
me to reach you. If you act contrary to this advice, you may erect a
permanent barrier between us. | hope Tom will forgive me Jor not treating
his eyes last week but 1 was so exhausted by that encounter that 1 did not
have the strength (you boys were also mentally fatigued). 1 shall try to
make up for it this week, Tom, 1 shall suggest a device which you can
construct at a nominal cost so that | may be able to speak with you.
You may proceed with the curing.
November 18, 1933
Dr. Bindelof was still testy about our behavior. The questions we put to
him and the brief message received are noted in the minutes of what went
on that night. What follows are the minutes as prepared at the time.
Record of the Séance, November 18, 1933
The séance began shortly after nine with Larry as spokesman. As soon
as the staccato was heard, the doctor preempted control by writing message
number one. [A reprimand of Thomas.] After the message was read,
Thomas made an effort to apologize which the doctor did not recognize,
The spokesman asked if we might proceed with the cures: The doctor said
“no.” When asked if we could try later, we discovered he didn’t care. On
further questioning, the doctor wrote: “I'm discouraged with the whole
business.” This called for a lot of comment on the part of the sitters, The
doctor expanded upon this by writing, “You're all the same.” When
questioned concerning the meaning of the last message he had asked,
“Where is the tube?” “Where are your notes?” Wt was discovered that the
doctor was displeased with our failure to bring promised apparatus, Leon-
ard asked if the fault was his and the doctor stated that it was. Leonard
apologized, promised that the apparatus would be ready at the next sitting,
and inquired if we might proceed with the curing. The doctor responded
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negatively and when asked if he lost interest in curing, he spelled =
“Don't care.” Larry asked if it was because we were unscientific. .
doctor rapped once and we turned on the light to decide any course we
should pursue. The sitters drew up a plan for conducting the séance and -
returned. The doctor approved the plan and wrote a message discussing the
conversation that had taken place during the interim. On the Suggestion of
the spokesman, he listed the facts he wished observed in the séance room
during the curing.
We said good night and ended the séance. — . .
Comment: A brief message obtained in this session referred to two
experiments in dematerialization, neither of which was successful, At one
point, we sought Dr. Bindelofs cooperation in carrying out an eevgergs
Len had prepared. We placed a sealed and locked box on the table w it ‘
penny resting on top, The idea was to have the penny dematerialize a
appear in the box. Dr. Bindelof’s response to this was a written note mee
“This is assinine."|sic]. The second was a failed effort to get two soli
bracelets to connect.
November 22, 1933
This was apparently an interim meeting. The only record available is
a brief account written in pencil and not completely decipherable about
what went on. It began with a list of who was there: Larry, Lenny, Tom.
Howard, Willie, George. Leo, Gilbert, Monte, and Ellice. Having de-
cided sometime before to become the Bindelof Society, we apparently
had prepared a constitution. The minutes taken at the time read as
follows:
Minutes of the Meeting, November 22, 9:30
Constitution accepted by all. All present, Minutes read, Short wait—
Dr. B. sitio eas knowledge of séance and in addition told us to
go ahead with tube—after receiving short message: “LT wanted it now.
Tube inserted in chandelier trumpet suspended horizontally [referring to
what Len had rigged up to hear Dr. Bindelof - M. U.}. Doctor wrote: ‘For
heavens |sic| sake, the things [sic] too high.” After adjusted, received
message and a diagram as to how it should be. .
Dr. B. blew through trumpet but that was the only sound emitted. On
another page was added, “First attempt with tube was unsuccessful.
Comment: All of the later accounts are in agreement that a loud breath
sound was all that ever came of our efforts at getting Dr. Bindelof to
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vocalize. With regard to the constitution, th i
‘ , there are no copies extant and no
one has a clear idea of what was in it. *
November 25, 1933
We had apparently become quite organized by this ti i
D y this time. Committee:
had been formed, and for the first time an agenda was set up invathaames:
Procedure for the Night of November 25, 1933
1. Demonstration of the talking apparatus.
2. Eye cures.
3. Questioning:
(a) About the soul
The secural [securing; sic] of an expl ion i iti
. + planation in writing of th
explanation of the soul, its relation to the subconscious, the chamairitite
ee ie different souls, and the acquired attributes, if any.
(b) If writing is refused, the spokesman will hav. indivi
edie notiete pe ill have to resort to individual
“ the ~ merely consist of the subconscious mind?
not—List the other features you attribute to the soul, ¢.g., Does
the soul have all the attributes of the mind during life? ee
If yes—Are there any added attributes?
If yes—List them.
If yes— Clarify and complete our concept of the sube ious
(c) Evolution and origin of the soul: a scl
o the ~_ originate simultaneously with the first life cell?
not—Tell us where and how the soul did origins if i
originated before or after life. iiaeaiiatiaaiais
If yes—Did the soul develop as did this first cell, in other words,
did the soul undergo evolution as did the material life?
If not—Is our soul identical with the souls of lower forms?
If not—Wherein and why should it di ms?
undergo evolution? y should it differ, being that it didn’t
4. Miscellaneous:
Would the doctor expect us to control certain factors he mentioned such
as humidity and room temperature?
Secural of [Securing; sic] a written explanati Shani
engi ] explanation of the mechanism of the
Respectfully submitted,
Monte Ullman
Committee for Planning
Comment: Message #10 received in response.
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Message #10, November 25, 1933
Ah! Now you have the idea. System. The business-like method you have
prepared must be adhered to, | wish to thank you for the honor you have
bestowed upon my |sic] by naming your society in my behalf. First, | shall
attempt to give you a demonstration of the speaking tube. Let me explain
to you about the soul. The soul as you call it is nothing more than the force
in an organism the [sic] gives it the breath of life, its exsistence [sic] is
perpetual. The soul develops along with the mind of the organism, The soul
stops developing at the point at which the physical body perishes, The
intelligence of the being is largely a part of the soul so naturally this element
continues to exsist |sic| with it. In lower animals while the soul exsists [sic] the
accompning |sic] intelligence is so small that when the physical part is lost the
soul and intelligence are incapible |sic| of retaining any individuality.
Larry has struck the right idea, People must become interested in our
Society. It must become talked about, As soon as possible try to have
visitors at each séance provided the comittee |sic| of admissions obtains
the circles |sic] unanimous consent but there must be no mental contridic-
tions [sic] to a persons |sic] presence.
While 1 can manifest myself well despite the temperature the curative
force | intend to use is bound by physical conditions equally as much [as]
radio and other type waves. The proper temperature and humidity 1 have
myself yet to ascertain. At the ideal conditions the patient will feel sort of
a pin-prick at the time of contact. The exact conditions at each sitting
MUST BE RECORDED for future reference.
Comment: Dr. Bindelof had earlier requested that we keep a record of
the temperature and humidity of the room during the sitting,
The minutes taken at the time read as follows:
Minutes of the Meeting, November 25, 1933
Society meeting. Roll called, all members present, Minutes of the last
meeting submitted and accepted. The report of the Committee of Records
and Appropriations proposed dues for this week of $.25. Report accepted.
Commitice on Planning presented a constitution which was also accepted.
Apparatus (trumpet) demonstrated and approved,
Minutes of the Séance, November 25, 1933
Séance: After a short wait, message #10 was received. Approved of the
systematic routine, advised spreading knowledge and additional sitters
each week. Wrote briefly concerning the nature of the soul. An apology
was offered by the spokesman for the ACCIDENTAL BREAKING” of
“Caps inthe orginal MOU,
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the thermometer and our present inability to record temperature ; -
midity. The doctor expressed his desire to have it at the reste ane we
apologized again, The doctor instructed us to place the apparatus on the
lower shelf of the table. We did this but the doctor found it impracticable
He Suggested clevating it. We did so, but were told that it was too high. We
lowered it. The doctor attempted to speak but achieved nothing but a
blowing sound. He was absent for a short time and finally wrote that the
apparatus was loo primitive and he was sorry but it could not be used (see
Figure 8).
November 29, 1933
This was also an interim session. The minutes of the session are
presented as they were prepared at the time,
Minutes of the Séance, November 29, 1933
Séance began at 8:40. Monty [sie], William and Tom absent. The doctor
arrived in ten minutes with Larry taking control, Message #11 received
directly [without being requested - M. U.]. In view of the contents of this
message, it was not deemed necessary to exclude Tom who sat for the rest
of the evening. The following questions were asked:
Q. Was mind force and matter co-eternal?
A. No.
Q. Are any two of these co-cternal?
A. Yes.
Q. Will you please knock at the two correct words?
A. A knock for soul and one for force.
Q. Did matter originate simply from the combination of mind and force?
a ! shall explain in detail on Saturday.
. Do you know whether any of the prevalent theories concerni
* a . - ern 5
origin of this solar system are correct? ° one
A. No.
[After many and complex questions it was ascertained
: as as that throug -
one may develop one’s soul.| magia
ri sas there any poets who are now intelligent identities?
A. Tes,
Q. Does Keats exist now as an intelligent identity?
A. If you will wait 1 shall find out.
Comment: A short rest was taken after which the doctor was asked if he
had obtained information concerning Keats, By questioning it was ascer-
tained that the doctor would have that information Saturday.
4 bg you manifest yourself OUTSIDE of the séance room?
ran 0,
Q. Can any spirits manifest themselves physically?
AL Yes. You call them earth-bound spirits.
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[Through a long line of questioning it was ascertained that the photo-
graphic plates were affected by a form of energy generated by the minds of
the sitters. Any object used serves mainly as a basis of thought. This form
of energy is distinct and resembles electricity slightly. We had asked if he
could name it and the doctor spelled out “no word for it.”
Q. Is there any mechanism other than the photographic plates which will
manifest this form of energy?
A. Doctor wrote, “Movements of gold leaf by the force.”
Comment: After a series of questions we learned that Larry was strongly
telepathic. that Tom and Ellie were mildly so, Larry discovered that many
of the questions which had troubled his mind during the week and to which
an answer was mentally offered were answered by the Dr. We also
discovered that interpretations of the Dr. [sic] actions by the sitters at the
séance table were offered by the Dr. We discovered that, to his knowledge,
no spirit possessed clairvoyant powers.
Message #11, November 29, 1933
|The paper folded four ways and crumpled. Message written on both
sides of sheet.]
William has practially |sic| answered for my actions last week, That was
the thread which broke the camels |sic| back so to speak. You may rest
assured Larry that | hold no grevience |sic| against you for making the
remark. | don’t think it will be necessary to exclude Tom. However, that ts
up to the committee to decide. | would prefer it if no further permanent
additions were made to the circle but rather we must reduce it to the
smallest group possible so that we may have room for visitors and patients,
Larry, | want to say @ word about your teeth. At the rate you are going, you
will lose every tooth in your head in about 5 years. The lack of calcium in
your body is amazing. It is a wonder to me your teeth do not break when
you chew. You must eat green vegitables {sic}, lettuce especially, Learn to
like them. You must, You must have a dentist attend to your front teeth also.
Now about the cures, Let us proceed slowly until we find the correct
conditions. For example cures such as Larry's, correct temperature and
humidity are not vital but in a difficult proceedure |sic| such as eve cures
where muscles must be delicately reshaped, perfect climatic control is
absolutely necessary to secure the maximum powers of the force. We must
find them by experimentation, | am afraid that the only method by which I
will be able to speak with you is by a microphonic amplification system.
The faint vibrations close against the diaphragm must be magnified to be
audiable |sic|. |word illegible - M. U.| Gilbert, | have no objection to being
mercinery |sic] as you put it, so that we may carry on our work. The rest
of the sitting is in the hands of the committee for planning.
Comment: Among the brief messages that occurred that night were the
words “Pythagorean triangle.” This came in response to our question about
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life on Mars. We took this to mean there was life on Mars and that the
triangle was a mutually understandable symbol.
With the wisdom of hindsight, that answer seems more like the response
to an adolescent fantasy than something to be taken seriously —but are we
ready to say life never existed on Mars?
This session also included our first case report.
Case #1, November 29, 1933
Name of Patient: Larry Levin
Case: During the day of November 29, 1933 the patient suffered from a
severe ache in the right lower jaw, This was supposedly due to an
abscessed molar, The doctor treated the jaw. The patient noticed extreme
pressure applied below the diseased tooth. This application of pressure and
massage were the only observable methods of treatment employed. The
duration of the treatment was approximately three minutes.
The patient experienced immediate relief: The acute pain disappeared
during the treatment and a dull residual ache remained for a period of about
ten minutes after which the patient's sensations were normal.
The doctor advised in his first message that Larry increase the amount of
green vegetables in his diet. He also spoke of increasing the amount of
calcium, magnesium, and phosphates in his body. He also told the patient
to visit a dentist,
December 2, 1933
Extant are the minutes and messages noted in the minutes, A thermom-
eter and hydrometer had been placed on one wall of the bedroom at the
beginning of the sitting and readings were taken at intervals throughout the
sitting and were noted in the minutes. Our efforts at producing sounds
continued, The minutes contain the first detailed description of the appa-
ratus we used. Only a blowing sound came through.
DESCRIPTION OF THE APPARATUS
The microphone was suspended from the ceiling so that it hung low
above the center of the table, The amplification unit was placed on top of
the piano. During the experiment, the microphone swung back and forth
from time to time touching the sitters. Towards the end of the experiment
the microphone was carried around Gilbert's head with the mike touching
the back of his neck.
Message #12, December 2, 1933
[Paper folded six ways and crumpled, Message written on both sides of
paper. This is badly stained in places as though it had been wet. — M, UL]
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Tam glad to see that you have finally obtained the hydrometer. Now we
may continue experimenting with the various temperatures and humidities.
While | appreciate your having gotten the microphone, 1 would rather you
would not employ these methods in the future, Gilbert, In some cases when
1 knock I partly become semi-solid. Part of this substance may at times
protrude from beneath the table. That is what George felt about his legs
and what Tom and Gilbert observed. If any of you should notice it in the
future please do not disrupt the concentration because of it. For photog-
raphy you may use 2 [not sure of this number - M. U.] techniques, one to
expose the plate in a dark room for about 10 minutes. In this case only the
other presence will be visible, not the sitters, To secure pictures of the
sitters also you must use about a 20-30 second exposure in a fairly light
room. The other presences will reproduce in spite of this light. You may
have to try several plates before you get results.
Telepathy is nothing more than the emitting of mental vibrations of a
certain frequency which are reinterpreted in another mind harmonously
[sic] attuned. If you ascertain these vibrations and reproduce them me-
chanically you can produce the illusion of thought in a mind attuned to
those vibrations. The receptivity of different mind |sic| for these impulses
varies considerably, The mind also generates and emitts |sic] a force that
radiates in straight lines. When an image like a bottle is thought of certain
amounts of the ray are not emitted, and where they do not strike, the plate
is not affected. This raidation |sic| may be the shape of a bottle. 1 am
seeking answers to your difficult questions on the soul. | will have them
later. Proceed with the temperature and microphone experiments.
Comment: The reference to the bottle referred to one of our thought-
photography experiments reported in Part II.
December 9, 1933
The minutes of the meeting and of the séance, and the brief messages
referred to are here extant.
Minutes of the Meeting, December 9, 1933
Roll call showed all members present. The apparatus constructed last
week was at hand, The committee proposed Mrs. Lauer as a patient. She
was admitted to the séance that night by unanimous vote.
Minutes of the Séance, December 9, 1933
The séance began at 9:25, After about 10 minutes rather weak knocks
were heard but it was impossible to ascertain the identity of the presence.
A short rest was taken and upon resuming the sitting a feebly written
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message was received saying, “Jom out. Leo in.” All members except
Horace and Leo were sitting when this message was received. A rest was
taken until Leo returned. According to the doctor's instructions. Tom was
excluded for the rest of the evening. At 10:40, the Sitting was resumed
After an explanation of the patient's case [Mrs. Lauer suffering from a
nervous insomnia], the doctor proceeded with a treatment which consisted
of a massage of varying pressures across the skull, temple, and nape of the
neck. By answering direct questions, the doctor stated that the necessity of
additional treatments depended upon results obtained. Another rest was
taken, Upon returning, we endeavored to go ahead with Monty’s [sve] cure
but we learned that the doctor wanted to clear up something first. He
spelled out Horace, but even after a long series of questions, we fuiled to
discover precisely what was the matter. Finally, he agreed to let the matter
drop and treated Monty's [sic] eyes. Again, the circle rested, When we
returned, we failed to obtain results for some time. Finally the doctor
wrote: “Light in hall.” It was discovered that light which had filtered into
the room from the outside was the cause of the delay, The situation was
remedied and we proceeded with the talking experiment using the same
apparatus as was used last week. This apparatus consisted of « microphone
and three-volt battery in series connected in parallel with the resistor across
the grid and cathode of the -S8 detector tube folled [sic] by a -47 output
tube. Sounds were heard which could be duplicated by blowing drafts of air
against the diaphragm of the microphone. No consonant or vowel values
Were distinguishable. After a series of attempts to make intelligible sounds, the
doctor wrote message: “Not sensitive enough. Use oscillator” {oscillator was
spelled ocil-}. After the conclusion of this experiment the group adjourned.
Comment: \n an interview with Len’s mother. Mrs. Lauer |Mrs. Pinco],
in 1971, she didn’t recall being treated for insomnia. Her husband, who was
present at the interview, reminded her she had spoken to him about
receiving @ treatment for headache and that she felt fingers gently massag-
ing her forehead and head
December 16, 1933
We once again renewed our interest in photography, We received a long
message from Dr. Bindelof detailing the procedure for obtaining these
pictures. All were taken in accordance with his instructions, The first was
to be a picture of himself, the second of what he referred to as the “common
force” which was said to pervade the room, and the third was a picture
[puzzling in retrospect| of “outside identities.” The message also com-
mented on his curative efforts with Mrs, Lauer. | was present throughout
the sitting but not at the business meeting held after the sitting. There were also
several brief written messages, the last of which was noted in the minutes:
“Please forgive me. 1 am so tired.” The session ended with another experiment
with the sound equipment. Again. only « blowing sound was heard.
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The picture of Dr. Bindelof (see Figure 9) came out looking like a
distinguished Victorian gentleman. In the second picture of the room [not
reproducible], in addition to the irregular cloud-like spots, the hydrometer
on the wall was clearly visible. The surface of the table with our hands
resting on it could be made out in the original print but not in the
reproduction, The third picture [not reproducible] was puzzling. In the
original, there seemed to be a group of helmeted soldiers kneeling and
taking aim, This does not show up in the reproduction.
hig. & A psychic photograph of Dr. Bindelot
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The minutes were lengthy but were largely devoted to our efforts at
photography following the detailed procedure outlined in Message #13.
Message #13, December 16, 1933
Tonight, in view of the fact that we have so much to do, we must not
spend too much time on any one experiment, The photography requiring
the most energy would best be done. First, let me explain a little more in
detail what | want done. First, | shall attempt to give you a picture of myself.
Process:
!. Use full aperture in total darkness.
2. Set focus for five foot point, focal clarity to be at the center of the
table.
3. Set plate. Remove cover.
4. Open lens in total darkness for period of 20-30 seconds,
5, Develop.
Second: Picture of common force.
1. Focus universal.
2. Distance enough to include entire group (sitters),
3. 75 watts. 20-30 seconds,
4. You should observe lines of force with irregular spots on plate.
Third: Picture of outside identities,
1, Universal focus.
2. Darkness (intelligent identities cannot be photo-graphed |sic| in
light).
That will be all for the photography. If no results are obtained this time,
try again next week, Please remember this method.
About Mrs, Lauer (she is not to hear this). Tom undid my work last week,
She would have slept perfectly as she did the first night had Tom not given
her a counter suggestion. Her case is 9/1 0ths mental. The 1/10th physical
disorder | corrected and also induced a mental conviction of cure. She
slept perfectly. Tom told her that perhaps it was just exhaustion that
induced sleep. This destroyed the mental belief and the 1/10th physical
correction could not overcome the 9/10th memal contradiction. In a
physical disease, however, the odds are reversed. Thomas has become
absolutely antagonistic. 1 suggest his complete removal and also that he be
kept in complete ignorance as to the circle's results.
While | should like Horace in the circle, his mental vibrations unbalance
the unit making communication difficult. However, if he does not object, he
may sit in the room away from the table or in the hall if he chooses. 1 hope
he will accept these terms, I am still planning complete answers to your
questions on the soul.
(All plate loading and developing to be witessed so that it may be
reported as such on the records.)
Proceed.
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December 23, 1933
Two messages were received. Message #14 refers to curative efforts
with Len’s mother [Mrs. Lauer] and Horace’s mother |Mrs, Joseph]. Both
women wrote notes about their experience.
Statement by Mrs. Lauer
I have been troubled with insomnia for the past 3 years. These past 6 months
it has grown worse. My son, Leonard, suggested | try a cure, by sitting with
them. After being told of the curative powers of this wonderful and rare
nomena, | consented, :
4 the time I was ready for my third treatment, I felt very confident about
the cure and had a feeling of being treated by someone | knew and for whom
I have a deep and sincere regard.
lam vans talked also grateful, and feel that the future holds much
for this phenomena [sic], On the whole, 1 am sleeping better and have hopes
of complete cure.
Sincerely,
Helen P. Lauer
Statement by Mrs. Joseph, January 13, 1934
On December 23rd, 1933, 1 attended a meeting of “The Bindelof Psychical
Society.” Dr. Bindelof was asked to give me a treatment for a stomach
condition, Dr, B, then came to me and pressed heavily on the top of my head,
the sides of the head, and then the forehead, The day following the treatment,
I noticed great relief from an exhausted feeling due to nerves, | had been
troubled with that for five years and can truly say that after the treatment, |
felt free of that condition.
The second treatment differed from the first one, There was apparently no
agent [word indecipherable—M. U.] hand, but I heard rumblings from
F result was beneticial.
nthe ed treatment consisted of pressure on the head. The relief from the
nervous exhaustion continued and the stomach condition is gradually be-
coming better.
Mrs. A. P. J, Hortense Joseph
38 Fort Washington Avenue
New York, NY
Comment: The minutes noted the humidity readings and the sequence of
treatments. Reference is made to a number of brief messages no longer
extant.
Message #14, December 23, 1933
Monte’s absence this evening renders the group too weak to take
photoyraphs, | suggest we leave that for some other time. 1 hardly think
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Mrs. Lauer will need more than one more treatment. Gradually, her sleep
will become more and more profound until she obtains perfect slumber,
There are no objections to sitting in Tom's circle Sunday Leonard, only
don't make it customary because it drains tremendously on your mental
vitality when the mental combination of sitters is not perfect. | shall not
manifest myself at any of those séances. However, 1 wish Tom the best of
luck in his enterprise about the cures.
Please read aloud the temperature and humidity during each of Mrs.
Lauer's treatments, This can be done just before the room is made dark.
While those readings were rather good, they still are not perfect for
complete utilization of the force.
! want to take this opportunity to wish all of you a very Merry Christmas.
You may now proceed as you wish. Should you attempt a cure for Mrs,
Joseph, she must first state her condition in her own words.
December 30, 1933
Message #15 received.
Message #15, December 30, 1933
I shall give you a diagnosis of Mrs, Joseph's trouble. You will then be
able to better understand my method of treatment. The nerve fibers in the
stomach which control the muscles of digestion have been partially de-
stroyed most likely by continued worrying and nervousness, The automatic
brain impulses which are relayed to the digestive muscles in the stomach
through these destroyed fibers fail to set the muscles into operation
because of the condition of these nerves, consequently, practically all of the
digesting must be done by the small intestines. This will almost infallibly
cause the person great distress. 1 sent growth stimulating impulses from the
brain to these nerve ends |that] in a short time will fully revive them. In the
meantime, you must eat no acidic foods such as pickles, ete. This onty helps
destroy the weakened fibers. 1 also suggest you stop another very useless
and futile thing—worrying.
If Mrs. Lauer will recall, she at one time alone developed enough energy
for me to almost manifest myself physically,
You may now proceed as you choose.
Comment: The minutes again correlate humidity readings with reference
to the treatment given. What follows is a statement submitted by Leo, a
cousin of Len’s, and one of the early sitters, about his treatment.
Statement by Leo Keiser, December 30, 1933
As is the custom and order of proceedings, 1 took the place between Leonard
and Gilbert for the continuation of the treatments the Doctor had begun about
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two months previous. The Doctor first put his hand on my head and moved
it from diet t0 my forehead. He pushed my forehead back and |, thinking
that he wished to apply pressure to that region, resisted him. He then left my
forehead and wrote that | should not resist him. The lights went out and I
again felt his hand on the top of my head. He then pushed my head back and
I felt his fingers at a point upon the neck where the thyroid glands are
situated. He left that spot after a few seconds, I felt his hand upon my head.
He pushed my head down and then | felt pressure upon the top of my head.
He mussed my hair up and then when he was through with the treatment, he
brushed it back into place again.
Comment: The sittings continued into 1934 with 10 sittings occurring
between January 6th and April 7th. Contact with Dr, Bindelof was more
and more erratic as other entities seemed to intervene, Long messages were
obtained on January 6th [Message #16] and January 20th [Message #17).
There were also numerous short messages. For the sake of brevity and
because much of what occurred continued the successes and failures
already described, | will limit this account to a few of the highlights,
Termination Puase JaANuary-Apru. 1934)
January 6, 1934
Description by George of being treated for an injury to his hand. He felt
a “warm moist trembling hand” flexing his wrist and then massaging his
hand and wrist.
Message #16 received.
Message #16, January 6, 1934
Your questions concerning the soul are no easy task to answer. You ask
explanations of life itself, of the ethereal substance that affords you the
power of thought and existence, Frankly, 1 sorely suspect my ability for the
work you have assigned me, but, nevertheless, you may be assured that
these answers constitute a most earnest effort to gratify your requests.
The soul itself exists quite independently of matter. it is an intangible
force ever present in space (the word soul is an entirely too poetic term for
such a physical phenomenon, Perhaps you can devise a more suitable
name?). 1 do not know when the force came into existence or of what itis
the result, but it would be a reasonable supposition to call it heginless [sic]
(what a poor definition) and infinite. The force in this state is entirely
potential. It becomes kinetic only when it combines with some substance
which by its chemical construction gives this force the power to manifest
itself through the action of the substance with which it has united. During
the embryonic development of a being, a portion of this force ata certain
period in the creation when the chemical constituency is exact combines
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with the previously dormant matter and by this combination gives the
animal the power of life. The finer and more precise the chemical con-
struction the more perfect the combination with the force and as a result a
more intelligent person. As the chemical combination becomes more sim-
ple, such as in the lower animals and plants, the mentality becomes
comparatively more simple because of the poor combination with the force.
The soul then begins its development in the mind of the person it is housed
in, As the chemical construction of the person weakens and changes as a
result of age or disease, the force slowly separates itself from the body. It
finally departs completely, rendering the body lifeless, This intelligence
continues to exist however in the same sphere that it did originally with the
exception that it now bears the mental characteristics of the person in
which it developed. It can still think and reason but it cannot manifest itself
physically for reasons | have stated in other messages. The rest of its
existence I have told you previously. .
/ sincerely hope this message answers in some way your questions on the
subject. While the foregoing message may appear rather short, believe me
it is the result of much investigation.
You may now proceed as you wish.
I hope there is a possibility you boys will reconsider Monte’s vote.
or that is entirely up to you. (Subject of vote no longer recalled -
January 13, 1934
Brief printed messages, some indecipherable. References to seating
arrangements and earlier advice to someone about going to the dentist.
January 20, 1934
Difficulty was encountered reaching Dr. Bindelof before message #17
was obtained.
Message #17, January 20, 1934
I wish to apologize to you for my failure to use the microphone. We
started so late in the evening that by the time | was ready to use if, you were
all completely exhausted. 1 suggest we leave this experiment and the
photography fora future date when we have better facilities. While they are
interesting, they are quite unimportant. 1 have neglected to tell you why 1
seemingly crumple the paper afier a message such as this. The explanation
may confound you, but 1 shall endeavor to tell you anyhow. When you hear
the pencil scratching at that terrific speed you have presumed that 1 am
writing at that speed. 1am actually writing at a normal rate—here ix what
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happens: a type of force (what it is 1 do not quite know myself) forms a
sphere around the paper and pencil when I write a message that you
approximate would take about twenty minutes to print. It does take me
twenty minutes, but the sphere reduces the time factor, so as to make the
writing to appear to have been done in less than a minute. In other words,
twenty minutes work can be done in twenty minutes yet done in one minute
even though it still took twenty minutes to perform. As for the consumption
of energy—twenty minutes of energy is consumed in one minute. When this
force dissipates, it does what you might say—collapses or contracts
toward the center of the sphere drawing the paper in with it, and crushing
it to the extent you observe. Strangely enough, the quality of the writing is
improved with the use of this force. In the short messages you will notice
the pencil scratches at a normal rate and the paper does not crumple, This
is because the force is not employed. To use this force represents a terrific
drain on the sitters. Therefore, it is advisable to use it only once and at the
beginning of the sitting. | doubt if it could be done twice at one sitting. That
is why I have refused to answer many of your questions by writing during
the séance.
About the cures.
Mrs, Joseph should be all right after one more treatment. What we must
do now is secure a person with a definite ailment, preferably malignant,
(The sooner we get started on that the better.) The first patient must be
harmoniously attuned to the entire idea, (While, a negative person can be
cured, it takes much longer.) An interesting point that has entirely escaped
me. A person on his deathbed may be revived and carried through the
crucial period by excessive heart stimulation. (Perhaps we can make the
circle a portable medicinal-kit.)
Now, about that unexpected mid-week sitting. | had better tell you that
is a rather foolish practice. Rather than let Elly |sic\ suffer any pain, 1
manifested myself but at the risk of losing further contact with you. You
opened wide for harmful and alien identities, With such a small circle, their
passage is much easier than mine and thus having attuned themselves,
permanently interfere if not completely ruin our sittings.
Incidentally, Leonard and Ellie?" don’t fall to |sic\ far behind on your
notes.
You may now proceed as you choose.
That baby should have been in the incubator last week. It was sheer
lunacy to remove it from an environment that was so obviously beneficial;
and on top of that to expect a child to digest a protein diet when it was not
fully developed enough to stop the sugar diet—the man is crazy. {No recall
about the incubator baby, - M. U.]
Note the twe different spellings of Ellie's name
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January 27, 1934
Mrs. Lauer's and Mrs. Joseph's treatments continued. Minutes refer to
the megaphone being carried around over the heads of the sitters. An
indistinguishable sound was heard over the megaphone.
February 3, 1934
Following a brief written note in which Dr, Bindelof thanked Mrs,
Joseph for the letter she had written, contact was lost for most of the
evening. A few brief messages occurred at the end.
February 10, 1934
Failure to contact Dr. Bindelof. Short messages signed by Dr. Rinchner,
a friend of Dr. Bindelof, who promised to look for the doctor. Minutes
included the following: “During the séance the following phenomena
occurred: watch was removed from Leonard's wrist and carried around the
table, twisted and toyed with and reset to read 3:16, and returned to
owner's lap.”
February 17, 1934
Difficulty reaching Dr. Bindelof until the end when a brief message
came to the effect he would explain his absence next week. Brief messages
from Dr. Rinchner and one signed in script “BAD.”
February 24, 1934
A young woman, Marianne Meader, visiting from Germany, had joined
the group sometime in January, 1934, She prepared the minutes of the
SESSION,
Minutes of the Meeting, February 24, 1934
After a short conference with the officers, the chairman called the
meeting to order at 11:35 and announced that a proposal had been made to
disband and to return all money paid in form of dues, Reasons: Séances had
been progressing rapidly until a short time ago when new members had
been admitted, Since then the results had been poor. Also, nothing had been
done in finding cases the doctor had asked for.
; The floor was opened for discussion and then votes were taken, resulting
in a 6:3 vote in favor of disbanding.
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The meeting was adjourned after announcement had been made that the
money will be refunded on Saturday, March 3, 1934.
Respectfully submitted,
Marianne Meader
March 31, 1934
There were no further meetings until March 31, 1934 when the New
Bindelof Society was formed. This and one other meeting of the new
society were held at the Hotel Ansonia where Marianne Meader was
residing. She prepared the minutes which noted table movements, a pencil
being thrown, a brief message signed by Mr. Bad, levitation, and the paper
crumpled. One brief message was presented in mirror writing: “Bindelof
not here, look again.” The minutes record the following toward the end of
the sitting: “Larry took control, spoke to Dr. Bindelof, and explained why
the sittings had been broken up, and the society disbanded.” At the very
end of the session a brief message from Dr. Bindelof was obtained in
response to Larry's request that he treat his mother who had developed a
tumor. Dr. Bindelof’s response was “nor as a patient, as a sitter.”
April 7, 1934
A short message was received in script: “There is no sence |sic] sitting.”
When asked to clarify this, the same identity took the request literally and
wrote the same sentence more legibly. It was re-written a third time with
even larger letters. A final message read: “They are gone. Why don’t you
let me go, please.”
This was the last recorded account of any sitting.
COMMENTARY
A number of factors went into the demise of the Bindelof Society. There
was the general feeling that soon after the early sessions in 1934 contact
with Dr, Bindelof beeame more erratic and the phenomena more unpre-
dictable. By the sitting of January 13th, Marianne Meader had joined the
group. She was a very attractive young woman who soon became the focus
of interest among several members of the group, particularly Len. As he
reflected on it in later life, he felt she diverted his libido from the sittings.
| attended only one or two of the January sittings, if at all, preoccupied as
| was with getting the marks needed to get into medical school. Larry began
to go with a girl he later married. Both he and Gil as well as Len were
becoming more aware of the need to find work and earn money.
In the final section | will try to deal with two of the questions that Tam
sure have come up inthe mind of the reader, namely, the identity of Dr,
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Bindelof and the question of fraud. And finally, 1 will describe the lifelong
impact this youthful exceptional experience had on all our lives.
Part IV. The Bindelof Story as Shared Exceptional
Human Experience
Overview or Our Lonorrupiwat, Suarep EME
In retrospect, compressing the experiences we boys shared together as |
have done in this monograph would make it seem more like a shared
delusion fulfilling the needs of a group of adolescent youngsters for an
all-powerful and benevolent father than an encounter with something so
mysterious that it had a profound and lasting effect on our lives—one that
created a bond of friendship and trust in each other that has endured over
the ensuing seven decades.
Those of us who still lived in New York City (ie., Gil, Len, Larry.
George, and Tom) joined me in an abortive attempt to sit again in 1946, In
addition, we met for a day of mutual reminiscence and retrospective
evaluation of our shared experiences in 1966 and again in 1969 and 1971.
Each one will be described below, At the present writing there are four
survivors: Gil, Larry, Howard, and myself, and we have kept in contact
over the years.
Sources Usep is Compnine Tus Secrion
Primary source material included the photographs, the written messages,
and the accounts written at the time referred to in the earlier parts. Sources
for this part include:
. Notes taken of the 1946 sessions.
. An account | wrote in 1946,
. Transcripts of the taping of the reunions held in 1966, 1969, and 1971,
. Howard's account written in 1966.
. Summary of a taping of Len in 1976.
. Transcript of a taping of an account by Len in 1985.
. Transcript of a taping of Tom in 1972.
. Informal discussions with Gil and Howard held in 1993 and 1994,
. Communications from Helen Lauer [Len’s daughter], Judy Malamud
ag step-daughter], Rachel Lauer |Len’s wife}, and Tom Lauer |Len’s
son].
Sens anuwutwnr
THe Core Group Revistep
Had we embarked upon a shared delusional experience or had we come
upon something genuine that could only be described as an unknown force
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that connected in some mysterious way to the emotional field generated by
the interplay of our personalities? Our neediness, our excitement, and our
enthusiasm had kept us dedicated to and involved in the sittings for almost
two years. Perhaps no final or informed judgment can ever be made about
the nature of the “force” that came into being, but the one thing we all
agreed upon and kept agreeing upon for over seven decades was that it was
real, unexplainable, and intimately connected to who we were and the
cohesive effort we sustained for so long.
It might be helpful to the reader at this point to be more revealing about
ourselves, our personalities, and our interaction both at the time of the
occurrence of the phenomena and also as adults when the series of reunions
occurred. As | am the one in the group who undertook to write this account,
it will inevitably reflect my own bias, Despite this, and to the extent that |
can. | will use direct quotes from the participants themselves. They have
been altered only to smooth the transition from spoken to written language.
Who We Were at the Time of the Sittings
The following recollections were gathered from transcripts taken at the
197] reunion.
Gil re Monte: “You were remote because IT didn’t even know you
personally.”
Gil [referring to himself and Larry]: “We were crazy kids and we saw
each other continually.”
Gil: “I wasn't involved in any intense emotional attitudes. | was very
close to Leonard. About George—I don’t know, | mean I didn't know him
too well.”
Len re Gil: “My impression of you in those days was of a guy overladen
with talent, with an artistic gift in almost any goddamn thing you
touched . . . you could have played any musical instrument if it were given
to you... you could draw... you had more sensitivity plus a helluva lot
of creativity even in other areas.”
Len re George: “1 saw George as somebody less gifted, more plodding,
more willing to make the effort to accomplish something where you {Gil]
wouldn't make the effort.”
Gil re Larry: “1 thought Larry was a great actor and that he had a
personality... | thought he was the funniest guy in the world - . . he had
a great talent for the theater and [was] very musical, He was an actor by
nature and that's one of the reasons | was attracted to him.”
Gil re Len: “Len was a brilliant guy and | always admired [his]
intelligence and [his] brain and the things [he] could do... there ure
sympaticos that bring people together, You don’t become close to people
who don’t intrigue you emotionally.”
Gil re Monte: “As far as Monte my relationship was very objective and
impersonal.”
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Gil re Tom: “With Tom there was a very impersonal relationship.”
Larry re Gil: “1 must have been awfully demanding ... to me you and
Olga [Gil’s mother] were the center of my universe.” .
Gil: “1 guess I was seeking something. | was a loner . .. you know I was
an only child except for the deep emotional connection to my mother. | was
reaching out for other people. Whenever I found anybody that was warm
and responded the way I did, I latched onto him.”
George; “I was a loner. | never had a close friend before | met Gil.”
Larry re Gil: “1 felt Gil was a very mutltitalented person, not just
artistically, not just in terms of music, but intellectually, He was very bright
and very stimulating. We had what was a very rare rapport... . Gil was
someone | loved as much as | was capable of loving anybody at that time
because | think what I had started to do was to protect myself against the
hurt at home I had received at the hands of my relatives.”
Larry re Len: “1 always admired what | considered his superior intellect.
He used to go around holding his pipe. talking about Beethoven and the
Ninth Symphony being Beethoven's expression of man’s relationship to
the cosmos. .. . | was very jealous of your [Len’s] relationship with Gil.”
Larry re Monte; “| was very fond of Monte... many Saturday nights
[after the séances and midnight snacks at a cafeteria] we would walk home
and we would talk.”
Larry re Howard: “Howard always struck me as being nervous, as he is
today. He could never sit still.”
Larry re Tom: “Tom 1 never really liked because I thought he was such
a phony. He lied constantly and he was unreliable, and also, | guess | was
ae because Dr. Bindelof showed such a great deal of interest in
UL ee
Monte re Len [Jeff]: “Now Jeff, as a person, had a powerful influence on
me. He was very bright... he always seemed very sure of himself... .”
Monte re Gil: “There was this prima donna or impulsivity about him that
intrigued me because I was much more inhibited ... | envied his level of
development as far as music . . . the theater... art. And his mysterious link
to psychic phenomena. It made you a very mysterious guy.”
Monte re Howard: “1 liked Howard. Someone mentioned Howard being
difficult to reach.”
Monte re Tom: “Tom had a sharper tongue. He could let you have it with
both barrels for no reason at all... He was intriguing. He was in complete
revolt against everything, | was tremendously impressed with his reading
of T. S. Eliot. He [had] a fantastically resonant voice ... what fascinated
me about Tom was he was somebody who was living out the fantasies all
of us had.”
Len re Gil: “1 think the most important person to me was Gil. We shared
all kinds of interests, . . . It was very positive, very affectionate, ... He had
a lot of things I felt | didn't have—talent in the arts and music and an
inventive and creative flare.”
Larry re Len: “At times there was a feeling of jealousy on two levels.
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One, when you became spokesman ... what you did to wrest a piece of
control... and on another level [ think I resented the increasing intimacy
and attention that you guys {Gil and Len] spent with cach other.”
Len re George: “I don’t remember George making an impression on the
group as a personality either in the social aspect of our interaction to the
degree that many of the others of us did because of our need to dominate
or our need to clown.”
Len re Howard: “He was the guy | was most aware of as [having] a moat
or big wall around him which he defended valiantly. . .. He was certainly
amongst the brightest of us.”
Len re Tom: “Newman was an important guy in my life . . . because of
the things Newman had to offer, There were a lot of things about him that
were hard to like . .. his compulsive fabrications and exaggerations. Some
of his rebellion | found distasteful in the sense that it seemed almost
ostentatious.”
Tom re the others: (from interview, January 11, 1972) “Ellie was lovely.
Gilbert was trying to make believe he wasn't the medium—it was really
Larry. Jeff was a tower of strength and beauty. I loved him right away, You
|M. U.] were a nice boy. George was a nice boy, obviously going to be a
salesman. Larry was like somebody from the inquisition trying to find out
what heresies you might have in your secret mind. He really wasn’t secure
then. Now he's very secure.”
In 1966, after our first reunion, a letter Tom wrote to me included the
following capsule impressions he had at the time: “Lennie still loves the
multi-syllabic verbiage; Gil is still the self-doubting, witty, self-deprecat-
ing youth; George still the childish, unsure, indefinite person” (December
3, 1966).
In Part I gave a brief account of the way | saw my fellow Bindelofians
then and subsequently. In brief, my reactions to the others were as follows:
I have come to know Gil much better in recent years than | did at the
time of the sittings. My own remembrance of him then jibes with much ot
what the others reported. He had a special aura for me because of his
personal and intimate knowledge of psychic phenomena through his
mother Olga’s earlier experiences and her continued interest. | didn’t feel
close to him at the time but did admire his ready wit and his broad
knowledge and ability.
I had a special feeling of closeness to and admiration of Len that went
back to our days in high school together. | envied him for the things he had
that I felt | lacked—good looks, self-assurance, and a charismatic quality
that made him a natural leader, | felt a deep sense of loss at his death in
1988.
Larry was a natural performer, | enjoyed his ready wit, his antics during
our breaks between sittings and there were moments of intimacy on our
walks home from the sittings. He could be abrasive and caustic at times.
Lalso knew Howard from grade school on. Although we never were
close there was a self-effacing quiet honesty about him.
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I didn’t have a clear recollection of George at the time of our sittings.
[didn’t know what to make of Tom at the time. He was so different from
anyone | had ever known. He was in open rebellion against authority, he
had a superior air, and a@ strong resonant voice that could deliver lines of
poetry us if he had written them.
In general, | was excited about participating and content to follow the
pace set by Len, Gil, and Larry.
Fraup, Seu-pecernion, COLLusion?
To repeat what my purpose has been in setting forth this account: It was
to have on record a shared set of exceptional human experiences, | am well
aware of the fact that for anyone who was not there at the time it may seem
too fantastic to believe. The question of belief is not the point. What is
important is that it was experienced as real for those of us who experienced
it, and it had a lasting effect on those of us who were part of it. Never-
theless, | would like to share with you, not in a spirit of proof, for I readily
admit no scientific proof is possible at this late date, but some of the
specitic events and certain aspects of the total experience seemed utterly
beyond our individual or shared ability to produce. As Ellie [Gil’s aunt who
was at many of the sittings] commented in an interview in 1985: “You were
very clever boys. But to produce what you did would have had to be very,
very clever. Besides, no one person could have done it. There would have
had to be a conspiracy.”
And, I might add, a conspiracy that would have required being continued
among the members of the core group over the ensuing decades [over
seven decades for Gil, Larry, Howard, and me, and for Len until his death
in 1988] and despite a growing closeness and deeper knowledge of each
other,
Comments From the 1971 Reunion on the Issue of Fraud
Gil: “If you had three or four people conspiring together I'd say you
could do it very easily... . | don't think one person could have done it.”
Gil |reterring to being felt by fingers in response to the request for
materialization|: “I think we had simultaneous contact . . . there were three
or four people saying ‘He's touching me, and you'd have to work
collectively to produce this.”
Larry; “As far as motivation there was no fraud over this passage of
years. Nobody benefited from it in any way.”
Howard |from his 1966 account]: “The nature of the sitters, their youth,
enthusiasm, earnestness mixed with exuberance, curiosity and bravado,
hopeless confusion and ignorance, lack of guile—all these made it repug-
nant to suspect a calculated, continued fraud,”
Horace |in @ letter written October 25, 1968}: “As far as | could tell the
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events were not false, and if they were, they showed a remarkable persis-
tence Over several years.”
From the Account of M. U. in 1946
The intervening years have taught me something of the caution and care
necessary in evaluating results. | can state unequivocally, however, that 1
have never been able to convince myself that any member of our group had
either the talent or the motivation to accomplish and maintain by fraudulent
means the great variety of phenomena that was obtained. This [is] despite my
naiveté when | first embarked on the adventure. In short, Lum as convinced
now as | was then of the genuineness of what we witnessed, In fact, my
conviction has been strengthened by further knowledge and experience in the
field of psychic research.
There were a number of specific features and happenings that are
particularly difficult to account for on the basis of deception or unconscious
collusion,
|. The photography experiments were carefully monitored by more than
one person from the time of purchase to the development of the plates. In
one of our very first experiments with the hand of one of the sitters resting
on the metal container holding the film, my thumb slipped over the hand
and appeared on the film as | witnessed its development (see Part [1
indicating it couldn't have been prepared in advance.
2. The successive and very rapidly written messages in response to spon-
taneous questions from the group and that were asked at different times in
a single session could not have been prepared in advance (described on p.
60. See also pp. 86-87 for Bindelof’s explanation).
3. Written messages came in response to thought questions put to Dr.
Bindelof.
4. My distinct and lasting impression is of a bridge table moving about the
room so fast it was hard to keep up with it (see Part II),
5. Several strange events occurred in the course of the healing efforts. On
one occasion when Dr, Bindelof attempted to treat Tom’s near-sightedness,
Tom felt pressure from fingers inside the orbit of his eye (Newman taped
interview, 1972). In a letter dated July 25, 1995, Larry described his
recollection of a similar incident.
The night | had a toothache during a sitting Dr. Bindelof’s fingers probed my
mouth and teeth, After a few seconds I felt his hand slap my face. A written
message following this chided me for neglecting proper tooth care. Since that
time T have spent much time and money in dentist chairs and am pleased at
sti having my original teeth more or less intact.
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At another healing session Howard, in an informal talk with me in 1994,
[reported having] had a vivid recall of where he was sitting at a time when
Dr. Bindelof was massaging his eyes to relieve a headache,
Incidentally, as tO possible fraud ut the time of the sitting, | was in such a
position [with my back to a comer where there was a piano] that it would
have been impossible—not impossible—but certainly none of the sitters
would have been in a position to do it.
In the final analysis, my conviction rests on my knowledge of the people
who went through this experience with me and who joined me in exploring
the meaning for and impact on their lives in the ensuing years,
Dr. Binpecor: Wo? Waar? Wien?
When we met for the reunions beginning in 1966, one of the things that
was disturbingly apparent was how little factual information we had about
Dr. Bindelof. We weren't sure of his nationality—German, Austrian,
Russian, American? We recalled different years for the date of his death—
1919, 1921, 1929. We knew nothing about his personal life other than the
— — he was a doctor and that his interest in healing continued after his
eath,
His personality was that of a benevolent but firm father figure, acknowl-
edging our efforts to maintain contact with him while at other times
showing his impatience when one or another of us failed to show up or
failed to follow his advice, He expressed his eagerness to be of help to us
and to demonstrate his ability to heal any symptoms we or our parents
called to his attention [only Len’s and Horace’s mothers took him up on
ea . insomnia in the former and gastrointestinal symptoms in the
utter],
Was Dr. Bindelof a discarnate entity? Larry was the only one who took
Dr. Bindelof at his word and still does, Several of us, including myself, felt
that he was for real at the time. Len was skeptical and quick to point out
incongruitics in some of his medical references, With the exception of
Larry, our retrospective view of Dr. Bindelof was that he represented a
collective projective response to our needs for a father figure. This in no
way accounts for or diminishes the mysteriousness and the significance of
the phenomena we witnessed.
Len was the first to discern gaps in Dr. Bindelof's medical knowledge—
errors that even a physician practicing in the 19th century would not have
made, The most obvious was a reference in one of the written messages to
“retina muscles,” which in reality do not exist. There were other sugges-
tions of medical ignorance that came through in the written messages.
These included the assumption that myopia was a curable defect that could
be ameliorated by massaging the eyeballs and that nerves could regenerate
(at the time it was held that they could not, although this is not as absolute
in the light of recent knowledge). A point was made about Dr. Bindelof’s
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frequent spelling errors, but there may be ways other than denying the
discarnate hypothesis to account for that.
Here are some reflections about Dr. Bindelof culled from the various
accounts:
Ata talk to the research staff at the Maimonides Medical Center in 1973,
Gilbert indicated he did not regard Dr. Bindelof as a disembodied spirit. In
interviews in 1989 and 1993, he referred to Dr. Bindelof as a conglomenite,
a mysterious composite of adolescent yearnings. This didn’t preclude his
personal belief in life after death.
At the 1971 reunion Leonard said: “I don't think that at any time
Bindelof said anything or wrote anything that wasn't within the mental
ability of any member of the group or any combination of the group,” At
a talk in 1976 he referred to Dr. Bindelof as dull, crotchety, and patron-
izing. He regarded him as a synthesis created in response to the wish on all
our parts for a benign and fatherly figure. At the 1971 reunion Len further
stated:
| believe that Bindelof was a synthesis, that the phenomena we've been
discussing was a product of the psychic capacity of human beings, generally
classified us paranormal, and that the intense interest, involvement, and
relative compatibility of some or all of the members of the group helped
develop, with a certain amount of practice, a relatively high degree of
physical force and a relatively high level of personality or intelligent struc-
ture that we came to call Bindelof, The notion that Bindelof was actually an
intelligence that once lived and died is not a hypothesis | bold.
In his 1934 account it was obvious Larry accepted Dr. Bindelof as a truly
deceased entity, a physician still strongly motivated to share his remarkable
healing powers, His adolescent awe and admiration came through in this
account written at a time when the sittings were still going on:
Here is a man, such as there have been few since or before Christ, . .. All his
life he strived and worked, all in one direction, to cure. He loved his work,
as a mother loves its baby. ... He has nothing to gain, nothing, and still he
wants to cure the people who spurned his helpfulness when he lived.
In the 1971 reunion Larry maintained his belief in the reality of Dr.
Bindelof and still looked upon him as a father surrogate. He was impressed
with the interest Dr. Bindelof took in him, “He was more interested in [in
the condition of] my teeth than my father was.” Larry's convictions about
Dr. Bindelof's postmortem existence continues to the present diy.
In the 1972 interview Tom didn’t believe we had been in contact with a
deceased spirit. With regard to Dr. Bindelof, he said:
That's the way Gil would have imagined him, « typical, strong 19th-century
German. In later life T can’t figure out what the hell Bindelof was all about.
I'm more or less inclined to take him at face value. | just have strong feeling
it was Gilbert's personality, | could casily see where he would choose such
& prayection,
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Howard, as I indicated, was highly skeptical of Dr. Bindelof as an actual
entity, but not of the phenomena we generated.
1 know | was more in Larry’s corner than in Len’s at the time in the sense
that | knew Len was probably right but | was hoping he was wrong. I had
found the father image | was looking for and was loathe to let him go.
Tue Invern (1934-1966)
Following my departure from the group at the end of 1933 or early 1934,
I had no further contact with any of the group until 1946, Gil and Howard
kept in touch with cach other and with Larry, I don’t think Len kept in
touch with anyone except perhaps his cousin George. We each followed
our individual career paths outlined in Part 1.
One of the first things I did on returning from military service overseas
was to visit the American Society for Psychical Research in the autumn of
1945, Thad the good fortune of encountering Gardner Murphy on that visit,
and before I knew it | was sharing with him the Bindelof experience in its
entirety. Those of you who may have known Gardner know his capacity for
giving a young person an empathic and respectful audience.
Once in practice [psychiatry] in 1946, 1 attempted to locate Len but
didn't succeed until that summer, Len and Gil had grown apart. That also
might have been the case with Len and me if | had not taken the initiative
in contacting him. He was a very self-sufficient kind of guy. We felt happy
about coming together again, The years of medical school, internship,
residencies in neurology and psychiatry, and finally, the army years were
not very congenial to uncloseting the Bindelof experience. The field of
parapsychology was just in its infancy at that time and was not receiving
4 very warm welcome from the scientific establishment.
It was not long before Len and | begun planning on a get-together with
whomever was available to see if we could get any results if we resumed
the sittings. We did succeed in contacting Tom and Larry, and the four of
us held a séance at my office on October 2, 1946 and then again on October
Sh. Gil and George joined us on November 21st and then George again
{alone] the following week. Between October 2, 1946 and February 27,
1947 we had a touil of about six sessions, We sat around a rectangular table
in my office in the dark with our hands in contact resting lightly on the
table, The window was blanketed and the room was in total darkness. My
notes about these sittings were very fragmentary. No unequivocal results
were obtained, Gardner Murphy sat with us on February 6, 1947, A tuning
fork that was stunding upright in the middle of the table fell over while the
table seemed absolutely still, Not very convincing!
The general consensus was that nothing had happened that carried with
it the definiteness and impressiveness of our earlier results. What these
sessions did was to bring us together again and rekindle the shared feelings
of 13 years earlier. It also set the stage for our later reunions beginning in
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1966. In the interim my friendship with Len deepened. | corresponded with
and had occasional visits with Larry who had moved to California. |
corresponded with Tom until 1949 and then lost track of him. I didn’t see
George again, nor did | have much contact with Gil and Howard until the
first reunion. | succeeded in locating Tom shortly before the 1971 reunion
and taped an interview with him on the West Coast in 1972. He was in the
last stages of metastatic cancer and died within a year.
My RepLections on THE Reunions (1966, 1969, 1971)
It would be hard to convey the excitement [and] the mix of fun and
seriousness that characterized our first reunion on July 31, 1966 at my
home in Ardsley, NY. We came to life in a way that denied the intervening
years and that was not much different from the way we related to each
other at the time the events were actually occurring—boisterous, wise-
cracking, taking shots at each other, and in general, relishing the shared
specialness of our earlier experience?’ | was working full-time at the
Maimonides Medical Center at the time and managed to get a small grant
from the Jack Aron Foundation to defray the expenses of those who
participated. Our stated goal was to review all the extant records, check
against each other's recall of the events, try to fill in gaps, resolve any
discrepancies, and note those aspects of the experience that made it so
credible to each of us. As might be expected, the effect of the passage of
time on our collective memory was such that very little was added that had
not already been offered in the existing accounts from earlier times. Gil,
Larry, Len, Howard, and George attended, We continued along the same
lines when we next met on November 22, 1969, Our final reunion occurred
on May 15, 1971. Howard did not attend the last two. Larry had succeeded
some time before this last meeting in contacting Tom on the West Coast
and arranged for him to call at our 1971 meeting. Tom was quite ill at the
time. He did keep his word. and we each had a chance to speak to him, The
phone call unleashed 4 flood of feelings at each end of the line,
All three reunions were taped and subsequently transcribed. It came to
a total of 322 typewritten pages.
George died not too long after our last [group] meeting in 1971
I continued trying to salvage further information [from individual]
meetings with Gil and Howard in New York and in discussions with Larry
on his occasional trips to New York. I have gotten to know Howard a bit
better and have spent many delightful days with Gil and his wife, Marion,
My interview with Tom took place in 1972, several months before he
died,
“The general fecling was we had lost whatever there was in our collective state that
generated the earlier results, These sessions, however, brought us together and paved the way
for the later reunions
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THe BinpeLor Experience ano [ts Live Impact
Although it is the most important aspect of this account, this section
poses special difficulties. Len, Tom, and George are no longer with us. I
had lost track of George’s wife and had no knowledge of how the
experience affected his life other than his enthusiastic participation in the
reunions and his conviction that we had produced genuine psychic phe-
nomena. In the case of Len, my own personal knowledge of his life was
augmented by the accounts of his daughter Helen, [his] stepdaughter Judith
Malamud, his wife Rachel Lauer, and his son Tom. Gil, Larry, and Howard
were asked to submit their own version of the meaning of the experience.
To my mind, Leonard experienced the phenomena as deeply and as
forcefully as | did, and although it didn’t shape his professional career, it
was Obvious to me that just as in my case, when he joined me in coming
back to it after the long hiatus, his excitement and feelings about it were
just as strong as ever. In spite of his protestations (see his comments pp.
101-104), I believe the experience remained very much a part of Gil’s life.
He kept coming back to the subject of psychic phenomena in his writings,
including one book (Roller, 1975).
Tom (Interview January 11, 1972, Los Angeles)
Relying on my interview, the report of an interview he had with Larry,
and the feelings that came out in his call to us at the time of the 1971
reunion, it was obvious that an unforgettable part of his past had come to
life, Even though he was desperately ill at the time his memory of detail
was remarkable. The same old feelings of excitement and wonder were
there, including the memory of his being scolded by Dr, Bindelof for his
misdeeds. In his own words here is his unswer to my question of life impact
shortly before he died:
And the main impact was that bere | know about the existence of certain
miracles and everybody would think | was crazy if | mentioned it, And then
I was concerned about what was reality and unreality, What was the
projection of Dr. Bindelof? But L wouldn't say it had any strong impact on
my life except [for] maybe some people | met like Jeff, It just happened at
that time you know—when I'd have more impact looking at a Montmartre
sunset than anything else. But it was a gorgeous thing to do each week. In
New York there always used to be trouble wondering what to do and that
filled in time fine, Then we spent all night talking in the cafeteria.
From what | gathered in the interview, Tom had led a very checkered
existence. After an abortive literary career [he had one story published in
the New Yorker], he drifted about, ending up in Mexico exporting mari-
juana and, according to what he told me, at one time running guns.
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Howard (1988, 1994)
In an account prepared in 1988, Howard told how he came into the group
through his friendship with Len:
As LT was a Marxist then, although | had never read a line of his, | was
naturally a materialist.
What was my reaction? | remember it well. So it is true, after all, that there
are non-material forces in the universe, and secondly, “What of it?” It never
affected my own personal philosophy in all these years and | know as little
now as f did then about the nature of psychic phenomena,
But, | was magically a member of a group of fellows who were instant
companions, some of them, those who survived, to this day, We were, take
my word for it, witty, sophisticated, even brilliant,
On one occasion in 1994 | asked Howard if there was more he could say
about the impact of this experience on his life. He demurred at first, saying
he had put all he had to say in his earlier accounts (1966, 1988). When
pressed, he offered this enigmatic comment; “It could mean everything or
nothing.” By that | presume he meant that the choice was to let it fade into
insignificance or to face a reality that was too overwhelming to contem-
plate.
Larry (1994)
Although Larry offered only a short account when asked about the
impact, I think it is fair to say that his acceptance of Dr. Bindelof as a
beneficent discarnate entity resulted in a transformative experience that
was more manifestly a part of his life than it was for any of the rest of us.
Here is what he wrote in 1994 in response to my inquiry;
Ever since we received the first message identifying the writer as “Dr.
Bindelof™ 1 believed he had lived on this plunet. | still believe that.
During the ensuing 60 plus years I have felt Dr. Bindelofs presence in my
life. Obviously | cannot “prove” it—but I believe it and have tried to live
secordingly.
| believe, as he wrote in one of his messages, that we could not compre-
hend life after death until we experience it—and that experience is not too far
away.
Finally, 1 believe the Bindelof experience was the most important in my
life,
Gilbert (1993, 1994)
Since all the successful séances we had read about in the classical
literature of psychical research had required a medium, we simply assumed
that Gilbert, with his history of poltergeist and through the influence of his
mother, immersion in things psychic like the Ouija board, from childhood
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on, had more mediumistic power than the rest of us. | don’t think he
particularly appreciated the honor, He never went into a trance nor did he
ever uct any differently than the rest of us. But things did happen in his
adult years that suggested we were right. He told me of one such incident
during a talk we had on December 23, 1993, During the mid-ceighties he
had held a séance at his country home with about 12 of his neighbors, They
sat around a huge table with their hands resting on the table in semidark-
ness, when suddenly the center board of the table separated and rose
several inches off the table. There was much screaming and yelling when
this happened, bringing the sitting to a sudden end. Gil’s wife Marion
described it as spectacular.
In an interview on April 15, 1993, when questioned specifically about
the impact of the Bindelof experience. Gilbert said:
It didn't change my life. It had no impact. I bad accepted it as a natural
phenomena [sic]. Olga took it for granted and so did L. Tt was simply part of
what remains mysterious and unknown, | didn’t become a disciple of Dr.
Bindelof as Larry did. It was part of nature yet to be discovered.
In letters to me written in 1993 and 1994 he wrote more about the
impact, or rather, lack of impact:
Coming from a mother who took paranormal phenomena as entirely normal,
I was never surprised by this kind of stuff. Poltergeist was something all little
boys had. | was bothered more by its destructiveness than that it was not
entirely usual. Furniture moving about and other substantial physical dem-
onstrations were infrequent and odd but then so was Hamlet's ghost, My
cherished Lionel [train] engine was tom apart, | was shot in the ass with
hairpins. Hieroglyphics inscribed on our walls advised us to “go.”
So you see, I'm what remains of this little tike who spent his early
childhood living with these phantasms of the occult, Therefore, you might
say, like Minerva, | was born fully armed and prepared for all this stuff,
Since the phenomena we developed are 4 matter of record it remains only
for me to state my gut feeling about what it all means, | can't accept Bindelot
as an incorporeal entity but rather as the conglomerate product of a bunch of
semi-hysterical adolescents looking for a daddy, Be that as it may, [For
Larry, Bindelof is an icon — M. U.] So be it. To cach his own. Reality has
no place in the occult. As ve told and written you [M. U.] many times. the
only thing I'm certain of is survival of the personality, How-why-where, |
haven't the vaguest. | believe there can be fragile, tenuous crossovers,
reaching beyond physical dimensions as we understand them. I've experi-
enced this, Lore abounds in such things but being what we are and where we
are makes the acceptance of its reality difficult. The Bindelof experience has
not affected my metaphysical beliefs. In retrospect, I'd say it's an affirmation
of what I've always felt.
As to the charge of fraud—cuphemistically, young pranksters—this hangs
over the entire experience. However, | don't think this invalidates what
happened. Almost all psychic phenomena have been attacked on this score,
The strongest argument against fraud was our devotion to the sacrosanct
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Saturday nights for two years to the exclusion of the more usual screwing
around.
Gil's Update (Interview November 14, 1994)
So now we jump another thirty years. I'm moving through an interesting,
rational life with my good wife, Marion. Bindelof is a dim memory as are
those who comprised the group except you [M. U,] and Howard. of course.
Some, it seems, have died. Meanwhile, Gil Guerrico Roller Frederico”™* has
on and off dabbled in the occult and gotten results—oak tables opening in
the middle with the flyleaf coming out—apparent telerotation of stones—all
signifying nothing other than lots of middle-aged women becoming hyster-
ical. | have developed a theory that if a sufficiently concentrated hysteria can
be developed among a group of angst laden women and men, too, for that
matter, paranormal physical phenomena will occur. | call it the Tristan and
Isolde syndrome. How's that for a book? Meanwhile, | have acquired a
distaste for experimentation in the occult. | feel it is an unwelcome intrusion
into provinces which at this time of our experience, are not of our business.
It is now the 1990s, IT have gone from film production to writing —sold one
book. | find very little or no influence of psychic phenomena upon my life
other than as a background source of information. | am writing about the
Elberfeld Horses and see Kluge [Clever] Hans** (Pfungst, L907/19 11) as a
metaphor for the stupidity of psychologists and people generally and the
imminent demise of our moronic civilization, This is all, brilliantly, brought
together to show how man is the victim of his hubristic God/Man mythol-
ogy—the belief in which his final demise as a rational animal is ineluctably
orchestrated and the real horses asses are not on horses. Animals are far more
psychic than any of us.
I must confess—that what has happened in the realm of the occult has left
its mark on my psyche, but only as a resource rather than a part of my
spiritual construct. That is to say, my views on life, death and the mysteries
that these dimensions must hold for us have not been inculcated by the
Bindelof experiences. | think they're genetic, instinctive, and part of a
cosmic concept that may be called religious, It is a secret knowledge and
perception given to some of us for reasons | have yet to understand.
For Gilbert, it seems the Bindelof experience was just another event on
a path he had set upon earlier. He had his own convictions about survival
before and subsequent to the experience. He found it every bit as exciting
as the rest of us but never reacted with the same wonder and awe. This
concern with the “psychic” remained a part of his life and continued to gain
expression. He gave a course on “Parimechanics” at the New School for
Social Research in 197}. His book, A Voice From Beyond, dealt with Sir
William Crookes’s investigation of the mediumship of Florence Cook and
“Here he was referring to his original forenames, Gil was born in Argentina.
Reference to Clever Hans, a horse that could tap out with his hoof answers to complex
thathematical problems under conditions that presumably ruled out sensory cueing but upon
thore careful investigation did not.
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was published in 1975. He participated with Leonard and myself in a
presentation of the Bindelof experience to my research staff at the Mai-
monides Medical Center in 1973.
Leonard/Jeff (1971)
Although Len and I grew closer after the 1946-1947 meetings and had
many talks about the Bindelof experience, he died before | had the chance
to have him develop in depth what he considered to be its impact on his
life. The only time that he himself touched on this was in the 1971 reunion.
One of the things that happened, I think, as a result of these experiences [was
that it] opened me up. Somebody . . . referred to me as a guy who was very
sure of the way things were, as very sure of myself. I think the first opening
wedge into that fortress of certainty was my experience with psychic phe-
nomena... when Gil reported about it... | was willing to try but I didn't
expect to find anything. | don’t think I was aware of it at the time, but [ think
it was really an opening wedge in this business of being sure .. - [of] the way
things are. Now at 55, I think I've reached some point where I can now feel
comfortable with uncertainty, and for me that's a major step forward. So, if
it Was important, it was a big opening wedge in this attitude that there is such
a thing as positive information; there is such a thing as “truth.” It was
important, like a first giant step in a significant personal development. . . . It
hasn't influenced my life style particularly, but as I say, it was a piece of
philosophical epistemological advance.
Len’s death was a deep personal loss to me as well as an end to my hope
of his collaboration in this account. There isn’t much I can add to his own
assessment of its life impact except to say he did enjoy talking about it and
sharing the wonder of it on the few occasions he did [so] publicly. We gave
a joint account of it at the 1971 annual meeting of the Humanistic
Psychology Association, He also gave informal talks at the Maimonides
Medical Center and the Institute for General Semantics. His keen recall of
detail as well as his ability to be both objective and dramatic at the same
time in his presentation intrigued his listeners,
What follows are the responses of his wife Rachael Lauer with whom he
was close until his death, his daughter Helen Lauer, and his step-daughter
Judy Malamud.
Rachel Lauer [Leonard’s/Jeff’s Wife]
In my judgment Jeffs extraordinary magnetism and charisma helped create
the phenomena. Those same characteristics have greatly affected his rela-
Hionships with me, you, and many others, It's very, very hard to separate the
phenomena, Jeff, and ripple effects. . . . Jeff himself rarely talked about it, or
wondered about it, or pursued any books looking for explanations. He just
went around being himself, stirring up excitement, mesmerizing people,
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creating strong reactions wherever he went, even in his last years. (Letter
from R. L. to M. U., April, 1994)
vas Sure you guys created the experience. It was your cumulative
ceding prt ek aataies combined. He seemed satisfied with that
interpretation and ler it go at that...Jeff lived out his life as a
mechanic ... his creativeness apparently _ for his later years as an
i ive engineer. I'm into supra-conscious education,
There wan font evening a few years after his death . .. when he appeared
to me in my living room—to say he was all right and to wish me well," If
| created that phenomenon then T would say that Jeff's story made me
receptive to such an experience. If he created it, then perhaps it was a further
expression of his own magnetism or his ability to break through planes and
boundaries, an ability that never seemed to impress or concern fim nearly as
much as it did you. He never really acknowledged he had any such ability—
though he said he strongly suspected Gil had, (Letter from R, L. to M.U.,
July 18, 1995)
Helen Lauer |Leonard’s/Jeff's Daughter]
ife-long implications of any of Jeff Lauer's experiences are not an easy
ar hae me ma address |as} ‘pers not very close to Jeff. But his earliest
telling to me of the Bindelof Society—when I was 7 or §—was one of our
closest moments. The fatherly presentation of the Bindelof facts, both as
anomalous, jestworthy amusement ~~ as profoundly nis a
jece in the legacy of reality Jeff gave to me, quile pul uly,
ccleenaly, and intimately. | have learned from my father—through his telling
and retelling —that plain, brute reality as given and unadormed is awesomely
mysterious and worthy of the respect harm parents may insist their children
, for some institutionalized authority.
eT think that the basis of Jeffs humanism and compassion, and the impetus
for his virulently independent thinking politically, is thts core of humbling
respect for the unknown that the Bindelof encounter may have given him,
and which he unquestionably taught to me. a ;
The kind of esoteric mysticism that attracted him with enthusiasm was the
debunking, irreverent approach that quelled spiritual pretense and dogma,
This was a down-to-earth, extremely macho, intensely critical kind of guy
telling you about written messages with no writer present—you believed
him. There was no reason nor basis for supposing that such a person would
be privy to sensationalism nor leave himself open to being duped. Emotion-
ally withdrawn maybe but never duped. (Letter from H, L, to M. U., August
1993)
Judith Malamud [Leonard’s/Jeff’s Step-daughter]
What was the impact on Jeff of his adolescent experience of joining with
friends in a deep, prolonged exploration of reality’s outer limits, of partic-
A) reference to an account of a strange but realistic vision of Leonard! Jeff appearing near
her in her fiving room and then fading.
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ipating so tangibly and convincingly, at such a young age, in “otherworldly”
happenings? Jeff was a good storyteller and enjoyed sharing with me and
other family members his lifelong fascination with these phenomena. He
encouraged my predilections, even giving me a Ouija board for Christmas
when | was twelve. He seemed most impressed by the psychokinetic ef-
fects—the table tapping, levitations, thought photographs, and materializa-
tions—and less interested in the concept or particulars of communication
with a “discarnate entity.” Although it was clear that he had given some
thought to the physical. interpersonal, and intrapsychic underpinnings of
these events, he was not at all inclined to transpersonal or spiritualistic
interpretations and seemed satisfied with the explanation that “Dr. Bindelof”
was merely a product of the boys’ subconscious minds, As for as | could tell,
Jeffs scientific/materialistic world view was not fundamentally shaken. but
his life was forever enriched. (Letter from J. M. to M. U.. July 12, 1995)
In a note from Jeffs son Tom (June 26, 1995) he spoke of how Jeff's
personality with his combination of openness and skepticism impacted his
[Tom's] life.
Personal Impact
The impact of the Bindelof experience on my life was as profoundly
transformative for me as it was for Larry, but in a very different way, For
Larry it was an encounter with a discarnate entity whose benevolent
presence was with him for the rest of his life, Larry still carries a picture
of Bindelof in his wallet, and he attributes the prevention of some near
catastrophes in his life to Dr. Bindelof's intervention. For me it was the
beginning of a journey of exploration into the many ways these strange
events, lumped together as the paranormal, impinged upon our lives, That
Journey, early on. pursued in secret, took many twists and turns but
ultimately played a decisive role in every professional move | made in the
course of my career, It began in 1932 ufter reading, at Len’s urging,
Hudson's (1893/1970) book, The Law of Psychic Phenomena. Fired by his
description of the powers of hypnosis, | succeeded in inducing a trance in
my 13-year-old sister the first time I tried. Placing a penny at room
temperature on her wrist and telling her it was red hot, she withdrew her
hand in pain and ina short time a localized area of redness appeared where
the penny had been. I did a number of other silly experiments, including
getting her drunk on a glass of water, all of which bolstered my 16 year old
self-image at her expense, The fact that a circumscribed skin change could
be induced psychologically made a lasting impression on me, resulting in
a series of circumstances that led me to my first serious research project
(Ullman, 1959, 1960).
Driven by the curiosity these experiences generated, | could map out the
entire future course my life took as a search for a way of giving meaning
to these earlier adolescent experiences. It led to the pilot work with the
REM-monitoring technique to study dream telepathy and later to the more
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formal experiments in dream telepathy at the Maimonides Medical Center
It shaped my 1970 sabbatical where, in Moscow and Leningrad, I wit
nessed the striking psychokinetic effects of Nina Kulagina and to my later
and still current pursuit of the paranormal dream in dream-sharing groups.
Finally it led to the rekindling of the flame of the Bindelof expenence, first
in the 1940s and then in the three reunions beginning in 1966 and to the
inner urge to preserve that experience in print.
In short, as a consequence of these earlier experiences, | found myself
embarking upon a dual career, one in psychiatry and one in parapsychol-
ogy. Had it not been for my early encounter with psychic phenomena ! m
not sure | would have been as open as | was to the occurrence of telepathic
dreams of patients undergoing psychoanalysis nor would | have been
tempted to pursue the study of the paranormal dream at the Maimonides
Medical Center.
When I was at the receiving end of a dream from a patient that contained
specific, noninferable information about my life that he or she could have
no possible way of knowing, | Knew that some complex transferential field
effect was going on, | was able to conjecture about psychological factors
at play but was at a complete loss as to how that way of toying with the
ordinary concepts of space, time, and energy transfer could occur, Accept-
ing the reality of these events opened my imagination to the implication of
such happenings for our understanding of psychopathology in general and
of schizophrenia in particular, More than that, it played into a growing area
of interest to me, namely, the nature of dreaming consciousness. We knew
that dreams connected with the three dimensions in which we live, the
biological. the psychological, and the social, but here was evidence that
they went beyond this to a transpersonal realm. My writings about dreams
took a turn from physiological theory and clinical observations to a concern
with larger issues such as the way dreams served survival needs by at times
transcending the categories of space and time that so determine our
behavior while awake. There was nothing paranormal about the paranormal
dream, It was simply a manifestation of the fact that though the content of
dreams start with issues of immediate and recognizable significance to us,
they don’t necessarily stop there. If deep-seated survival needs are at stake
they can bridge space telepathically to bring us information available but
not currently known to us or bridge time and precognitively incorporate
elements of the future not currently known to anyone.
Rhea White has written eloquently and in depth of the dissonance that
pursued her throughout her brilliant and outstanding career in parapsychol-
ogy. When she finally disengaged herself from the procrustean bed in
which an army of talented and dedicated workers tried for so long to fit
psychic phenomena in the effort to win scientific acceptance, it was an act
of liberation, not only for herself, but also for those of us who feel that the
panoply of psychic phenomena will never come into its own in the
sunitized experimenter-subject model.
| responded enthusiastically to the more open, more human, more
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interesting idea of exploring under one umbrella the range of exceptional
human experiences. More specifically, it suck me as the best container for
the Bindelof experience. | had not proof but, more importantly, | didn't
have to have proof. All I had to have was as honest a recall as | and the
others could manage, helped by the earlier documentation, and a lifetime of
the participants knowing and trusting each other,
In most of the EHEs that I have read about the transformative effect was
brought about by a sudden peremptory experience. In my case it was
different. The triggering experience went on for almost two years and the
transformative impact rippled out over my subsequent life. It was in a sense
a chronic EHE in its onset and in its transformative effect, which ran a
chronic course over the ensuing seven decades. It made its presence felt
with each of the mysteries | encountered as my work and interests drew me
to the paranormal, hypnosis, dreams, and aspects of psychopathology, in
particular the psychological content of the major psychoses. In each of
these instances the Bindelof experience helped me eschew many of the
conventional explanations in favor of a greater appreciation of the depth of
our ignorance about the nature of reality.
In preparing this account I have come to more fully realize how perva-
sive was the impact of these earlier experiences on me throughout the
course of my life. Getting it down on paper was a task I knew | had to do.
Now that it’s done | have a feeling of relief, a feeling of sadness that Jeff
wasn't here to work with me on it, and a deep sense of gratitude to Rhea
White for her recent writings that finally inspired me to get going with it.
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